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Old 09-01-04, 08:21 AM
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What's the deal with Camber adjustment?

I'm about two weeks away from getting my Tokico Illumina shocks to mate up with my Eibach Prokit springs. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to adjust the camber after I do this...

How do I adjust it, and do you need any special tools? I've rebuilt my engine, and I've done everything on my car short of mounting my new tires to the rim (that was free). Can I handle this, or do you need an alignment type machine?

One guy i was talking to said something about buying a special bolt, and that the rear one doens't have a spot for said bolt.

I'm sure you guys can show me the light


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Stock FC=no camber adjusters. You'll need a camber kit of some sort for the front and rear. Mazdatrix sells some nice independant rear camber pieces. The front I've heard a lot of different things. Just search a little and you'll find out about the bolts and real kits.
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Exactly, you need a camber kit, and an alignment machine.
You could get by using the new Eibach springs for a while without using a camber kit.

If the springs lower the car any, all alignment angles will change, and you will experience uneven tire wear.
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Eibach Pro-Kits drop the chassis very little.
I think they advertise a 0.75" drop?
In fact, some cars will even *raise* a little.

I wouldn't worry about the camber.
The fronts need more than you can attain with the stock components.
The rears only get nasty with extreme drops, over 1".



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Thanks for the replies guys!

RETed - You're right about the Prokit. It's only supposed to drop .75", so I should be good then just to get the front camber kit from tirerack or somewhere, and not worry about the back?

PS - sorry about the lag before response, yesterday was rather busy
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I bought the Eibachs and Tokico non-adjustables from Mazdatrix about two years ago. After installing them I had to buy a camber adjuster from Mazdatrix to square up the suspension. I bought the single camber adjuster, they did not have the two adjusters at that time. If they had.....I'd a bought the two, not that there is anything wrong with the single. The double makes more sense and has to be more accurate. Common sense thing.
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Originally Posted by WonkoTheSane
RETed - You're right about the Prokit. It's only supposed to drop .75", so I should be good then just to get the front camber kit from tirerack or somewhere, and not worry about the back?
I wouldn't bother.
It sounds like this "front camber kit" are just a pair of eccentric bolts.
If they are, I wouldn't bother getting them.
For the fronts, you really need a set of front camber plates.
Eccentric bolts slip.

HAILERS mentioned he needed the rear camber adjust bar.
My car was actually raised when I went with the Tokico Illuminas and Eibach Pro-Kits on my '87 Turbo II.



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Originally Posted by RETed
I wouldn't bother.
It sounds like this "front camber kit" are just a pair of eccentric bolts.
If they are, I wouldn't bother getting them.
For the fronts, you really need a set of front camber plates.
Eccentric bolts slip.

HAILERS mentioned he needed the rear camber adjust bar.
My car was actually raised when I went with the Tokico Illuminas and Eibach Pro-Kits on my '87 Turbo II.
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I hear camber plates need to be constantly adjusted because they aren't made for city driving.
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Locketine - I think I remember reading something of the same..

Any insight, RETed? I've also read on the forum that the bolts are pretty worthless, and either shear off, or strip to the point of uselessness... hmm..

I may just see what I can do with stock, and then go for the plates later, unless they're not too expensive
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I guess it depends on which one you're using?

We've been using the Ground Control and Cusco ones with no problems.


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sweet, i'll look into them. Thanks Ted!
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Just remember, racers use camber plates, and they can be very hard on suspension components with diving over the FIA curbing with super stiff springs. I wouldn't worry about camber plates too much, just get it aligned, mark where the bolts are in relation to the plates (or make a template), and if they slip you can just reset them.
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I've noticed that some camber plates don't have washer under the cap socket screws to secure the pillow ball to the slider plate.
I believe the Ground Control units have them.
The washers distribute the cap socket screws evenly.


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