manning

i know this is my first post but bear with me..

start with a TII motor due to lower compression and 4 port design and larger exhaust ports

tear it down. get a nice->aggressive street port reassemble (of cource replacing any worn or abused parts)

get a exhaust manifold: not sure on this one.. any susgestions i guess turbo selection will determine this.

Get a turbo: whats the susgestion? to4e, t61, t66, tdo6/20g im not sure im new to the rotory stuff.. what is the susgestion, i dont want to be at the LIMIT of the turbo but dont wanna not be using all of it either.

get an external waste gate: looking at at least a 40mm correct? this depends on the exhaust manfiold too?

port intake manifold/ all the other cheap/free mods

1600cc secondary's with 550's for mains

full exhaust 3" at least

pucked clutch( probley a 6) and which plate? how many lbs do you want?

get an EMS and tune, whats the consensis on this i see MANY haltech guys, any reason for that or is it because everyone has one so support is easy? im fairly versed in all of them so really its whatever i end up getting cheap but just wondering

Get an Fmic, i have a 19x9x2.75 (griffin core with custom tanks) lying around is this gonna be ok? ad piping from turbo to TB and a BOV

new radiator? this seems like a new choise but is pricey.. is it NEEDED?

mind you i know the car is not going to be 350-400 everyday. i would like high 11 second pass's at the strip on 118 daily all im asking for is 200wheel at say 10psi or less.


im sure im missing somthing, so please chime in if you feel the need, and im looking for susgestions on what you all think im going to need!.
thanks guys

RexRyder

iTrader: (10)

well dem 1600cc injectors aint gonna werk right with the stock furl pump, you'll also need a SAFC to tune the injectors, and a whole bunch of other ****.

manning

ah yeah fuel pump.. definantly missed that.. so walboro 255 sound ok??

safc...why? im stickin an ems on the thing..

adamlewis

He said he was gonna get a haltech or something

bcty

first off.. do not use 1600cc injectors.. you have no way to control it.. get some 920's for the 2ndaries and maybe a bit bigger on primarys.. get a halteck.. get a full 3" exhaust... 4" Tid... all other bolts on obv... i think you will need a bigger turbo.. maybe.. there pretty cheep anyways... bigger fuel pump.. mentioned above... might as well upgrade the rad with all those mods to handle the higher boost and to keep it cooler...stuff like that...

Rpeck

No S-AFC needed if you use a aftermarket EMS. I would get a better radiator for sure. Fluidyne, or the K2RD one is very nice also. I hear 350HP is pushing the limit of the Walboro 255. I don't think your car is going to be that easily adjusted, A 400HP Rx is bound to give you some issues as a daily driver.

bcty

oh sorry plus big street port will make lots of power.. or go Bridge port and make huge power but you will need internal mods as well

manning

i wanna stay with the street port.. as far as ive read the motor's reliablity really suffers with anything bigger.

manning

why cant i control the 1600's with the EMS? as far as i understand the fuel system is basicly staged injection.. should be no problem runing a HUGE injector. you have the small 550's for the nice driveablity and idle issues.. then the big monster injector for when you need it under boost.

really a bigger turbo? from what ive seen on MikeLamonica's site he's making 376hp on his T-66 thats right about where i would like to be.

manning

the walboro pump as i understand is bascily all the pump you'll ever need haha.. but ok good point.. anyone know the next step up, or does anyone have info to back Rpeck's statement up?

why would you think that the ajustability isnt there?.. 2 maps.. one for race gas one for 93. load the 118 map up at the track and throw the gas in..

i just run around on the wastegate spring on the street you can get them as low at 3psi.. at like 5-7psi im sure the car will still make good enough power on the street.. and how is this sacerficning reliability..
not like im racing everyday.. mabey 2 times a month at the track and mabey 1-2 times a month on the street
i dont see any problem's with that.. anyone else?

HWO

you'll need a fuel pump that'll support 600HP.
an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator
1600cc secondarys - u are on the money there
anything around the T04E/T04S/60-1/T66 size will be sufficient to achieve your goals.

Remember the BIGGER the ports, the less boost will be needed to make your target HP.

3inch exhuast
that intercooler sounds good
i suggest porting and polsihing the throttle body aswell
but otherwise you sound like you are heading in the right direction for the rest of the stuff

manning

cool thanks for the responce.

but isnt bigger ports=quicker the motor dies? someone wanna clear this up i keep seeing guys with bridge and stuff.. and they are tallking about how it kill's the motor's life.. any oppinions on this?

i would like the motor to last a year i guess thats not asking much.. say like 15k?!

manning

ok thats the second guy sayin i need a bigger pump.. any reconmondations?

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

I believe you can squeeze 50K on a Bridge port (on the secondaries). Anyways the point is that a street port would last you 15K X 5 at LEAST.

RXSpyder

I also believe that you will NEED lots of CASH. Cause the more money you have the more power you can get from your car. With the cash, you can buy top products to ensure your engine lifre.

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

Speed = $$$ It doesn't matter what car you are driving

That's why I drive a SLOW car

RacerXtreme7

iTrader: (2)

You sound right on track to me, except the pump like the others have said. I'm not sure as what to recommend, you might have to go external. A t04e 60-1 will be on target with a .9 exhaust a/r divivded tubular manifold and divided turbine housing. Good spool and 350-400 hp no problems.Go larger street port. Its only a realiability issue because the more power you make, the more wear on ****, but I'd rather make more power with less boost, its actually less thermal load on the engine, more boost = hotter intake air. Bridge porting is a different realiability issue due to the bridge breaking. Larger street port = faster spool, less boost for more power. 40-45mm wastegate will be fine. Keep in mind all the hidden cost in doing this, things like comp motor mounts, aluminum piping for intake, intercooler etc. New hoses (rad, heater etc.), down pipe fab, wastegate down tube ( venting these in the air are LOUD) theres always the "AWW DAMN I FORGOT TO BUY THIS........" when you get in a project, but you dont sound new to it. good luck!

My $0.02
~Mike........

manning

yeah really seems like alot of people are susgesting the To4e 60-1. this would use the hks? manifold? who else makes a to4e manifold? who's wastegate are they flanged for? i think im pretty set in what supporting mods i want.. its just turbo/manifold selection thats holding me up


im accually rethinking now.. and i may stay with stock ports for a while (due to cost) and seeing that you can still make power on them.

Rpeck

Porting is one of the cheapest power mods you can do compared to all the other things you are considering.

manning

Not considering its dumb just to pull the motor apart to port and just replace the soft seal's.. there's at least 600 bucks there.. and there is so much logical stuff to do when you have it apart..

its much cheaper to blow up stock motors than it is to blow up built/ported motors, in my oppinion

Rpeck

A gasket set is only about ... ~$300 and I would sugest a full rebuild on any motor you plan to pump 400HP into. You need to start with a strong block and good running car before you Mod the **** out of it. I hate to see your very expensive 60/1 turbo eat a apex seal in the first Hr.