What will it take to get my car to pull 1.5+ lateral G's
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09-05-04, 02:00 AM
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Downforce and high speeds or
Super wide super sticky tires,.. like out way beyond the fenders,.. rubber has the unique property that the less force applied to it the higher its coeficient of friction appears to be,..
Super wide super sticky tires,.. like out way beyond the fenders,.. rubber has the unique property that the less force applied to it the higher its coeficient of friction appears to be,..
09-05-04, 02:11 AM
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getting a fc to 1.0g is enough of a task. i doubt 1.5 would even be possible without SOO much modification that you couldnt even call it an FC anymore.
serriously. NO street car pulls more than like 1.1g (thats a VERY rareified set too)
not gona happen without slicks and REDICULOUS levels of modification, if at all.
why do people just pull these questons out of their ***, like their the first to ever want to pull more than 1.0g, or that THEY discovered the magic secret to make their car faster than an enzo AND on a budget comprised soley of their lunch money.......
people, get a grip on reality!!!!
serriously. NO street car pulls more than like 1.1g (thats a VERY rareified set too)
not gona happen without slicks and REDICULOUS levels of modification, if at all.
why do people just pull these questons out of their ***, like their the first to ever want to pull more than 1.0g, or that THEY discovered the magic secret to make their car faster than an enzo AND on a budget comprised soley of their lunch money.......
people, get a grip on reality!!!!
09-05-04, 02:30 AM
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Why are you even interested in this acedemic number, especially such a high one? It has little to no relevance in street driving anyway, since you'll most likely never corner on a surface and smooth and flat as a skidpan. High lateral acceleration numbers don't necessarily mean a car handles well.
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09-05-04, 01:33 PM
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Among many other things, first you would have to go with a widebody such as the one from Tri-Point like Carl Byck and I have.
I have no tires for my widebody car yet, but Carl has managed to stuff 13" wide Trans Am slicks in the rear and 11.5" up front I believe.
This setup with some decent aero at speed, after a lap or so to heat up the tires would get you around that number probably.
His car will be track ready pretty soon and I'm as anxious as he is to see how it does around the corners. btw, notice I said track, as imho, you couldn't get a car on the street near that level.
I have no tires for my widebody car yet, but Carl has managed to stuff 13" wide Trans Am slicks in the rear and 11.5" up front I believe.
This setup with some decent aero at speed, after a lap or so to heat up the tires would get you around that number probably.
His car will be track ready pretty soon and I'm as anxious as he is to see how it does around the corners. btw, notice I said track, as imho, you couldn't get a car on the street near that level.
09-05-04, 03:52 PM
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i remember seeing someone in the Race Car Tech forums that was pulling well over 1g. I don't think it would be that incredibly hard or expensive.
Widebody
Wide Rims
Racing Slicks
Coilovers
should get you close at least.
edit: found it, DamonB's FD pulled just over 1.3 g's of lateral acceleration on the road course. Keep in mind this is an FD, but the dimensions of the car are close enough to those of the FC that I would think you could get similar or better number without huge modifications.
Widebody
Wide Rims
Racing Slicks
Coilovers
should get you close at least.
edit: found it, DamonB's FD pulled just over 1.3 g's of lateral acceleration on the road course. Keep in mind this is an FD, but the dimensions of the car are close enough to those of the FC that I would think you could get similar or better number without huge modifications.
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09-05-04, 08:05 PM
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An FB with full suspension upgrades from G Force Engineering has pulled 1.3 g's cornering. It had an extremely stiff suspension and was using autocross compound tires. 1.3 is pretty damn good. To go from 1.1 g's to 1.3 g's is harder than going from 1.3 to 1.5. If you go out and buy a Formula 1 car you an hit 3+ g's. I'm going to just say that it can not be done by anyone in an FC.
09-06-04, 05:13 AM
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E Production FBs are having a new problem. You cant buy the OEM Front rotor/hubs anymore. For the most part (ALL) of the aftermarket hub/rotors are having a problem in the high end peoples cars.
The problem is the Rotor WITH the tire attached is breaking off the hub under hard cornering.
What you end up with is a cast hub unit attached to the spindle.. and the disc itself attached to the tire goes bounding down the track as you crash into whatever is in front of you.
(Thread listing the problem: http://www.coloradoscca.org/prodcar/...pic.php?t=3291)
Pic of the rotor: http://coloradoscca.org/images/20040...otor%20005.jpg
NOW... That being said... these cars have 9.5 Inch wide slicks all the way around. They are lighter than stock.. quite a bit.. and have full suspension.
Suspention at a minimum would consist of shocks, 2.5" springs, perches, sway bars, camber/caster, lowered a lot... etc.
These cars corner as hard as anything without ground effects. I cannot say how hard because I havn't seen and G plots of it. But I do know if you break off your hubs.. you are hanging the turns pretty hard.
When my FC is done.. I will be able to find out.
The problem is the Rotor WITH the tire attached is breaking off the hub under hard cornering.
What you end up with is a cast hub unit attached to the spindle.. and the disc itself attached to the tire goes bounding down the track as you crash into whatever is in front of you.
(Thread listing the problem: http://www.coloradoscca.org/prodcar/...pic.php?t=3291)
Pic of the rotor: http://coloradoscca.org/images/20040...otor%20005.jpg
NOW... That being said... these cars have 9.5 Inch wide slicks all the way around. They are lighter than stock.. quite a bit.. and have full suspension.
Suspention at a minimum would consist of shocks, 2.5" springs, perches, sway bars, camber/caster, lowered a lot... etc.
These cars corner as hard as anything without ground effects. I cannot say how hard because I havn't seen and G plots of it. But I do know if you break off your hubs.. you are hanging the turns pretty hard.
When my FC is done.. I will be able to find out.