2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

what kills alternators so much?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-11-02, 09:37 AM
  #1  
Shelby Tuner & FC badass

Thread Starter
 
GLHS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Seminole, Florida
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
what kills alternators so much?

What kills alternators so fast on RX7s???


I would like to stop it from happening so much...



Is it the high rpms that kill them?


Is the heat killing them???


Need extra grounds?
Old 11-11-02, 09:56 AM
  #2  
RX-7 Bad Ass

iTrader: (55)
 
DaleClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 15,399
Received 2,438 Likes on 1,509 Posts
Didn't know it was a problem .

The stock alternator is good for around 100,000-120,000 miles in my experience. The alternator has just enough juice to run the car stock - when you add big stereos, lights, etc. it will start to show its age. Parts store alternators aren't all they're cracked up to be sometimes, too.

I put a 3rd gen alternator in my car sometime back and have had no problems, even with lots of electrical stuff.

Dale
Old 11-11-02, 10:03 AM
  #3  
Shelby Tuner & FC badass

Thread Starter
 
GLHS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Seminole, Florida
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well we got this T2 of this guy who replaced the alternator 5 times in about 2 years...

All stock componets on the car.


This past Saturday,, it took a **** or so we thought..
The headlights went dim,, no power and died...

Pulled alternator had it tested one place said bad,, other said it was fine and charging..


The alternator is the factory unit, which has been rebuilt.

The guy who rebuilds these is very good and has been doing mine for years..

I am surprised you say they last so long. I have yet to see one factory unit make it past 100,000.
Old 11-11-02, 10:55 AM
  #4  
Full Member

 
buttlips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Yep
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The original alternator in my car just crapped out on me after 181,733 miles. (Everything on my car is stock)
Old 11-11-02, 10:57 AM
  #5  
Shelby Tuner & FC badass

Thread Starter
 
GLHS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Seminole, Florida
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how do you know its original? You got the car new?
Old 11-11-02, 10:59 AM
  #6  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (6)
 
RotaryWeaponSE7EN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Mission,KS
Posts: 2,937
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Mine crapped on me when I was out drifting one night with an AE86 Hatchback, just died through one of the turns. Luckily I made it to the closest part store and got a newone.
Old 11-11-02, 11:08 AM
  #7  
Shelby Tuner & FC badass

Thread Starter
 
GLHS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Seminole, Florida
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So really high rpms killed yours????
Old 11-11-02, 11:13 AM
  #8  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (6)
 
RotaryWeaponSE7EN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Mission,KS
Posts: 2,937
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Yep
Old 11-11-02, 11:13 AM
  #9  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (6)
 
RotaryWeaponSE7EN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Mission,KS
Posts: 2,937
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
The car kept making that beeping noise
Old 11-11-02, 11:14 AM
  #10  
Shelby Tuner & FC badass

Thread Starter
 
GLHS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Seminole, Florida
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
LOL
Old 11-11-02, 12:29 PM
  #11  
Full Member

 
buttlips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Yep
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally posted by GLHS
how do you know its original? You got the car new?
I'm the second owner. The original owner is a friend of mine. He told me he never had it replaced.
Old 11-11-02, 12:45 PM
  #12  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,829
Received 2,597 Likes on 1,845 Posts
its rare to see a mazda alternator fail, the parts sorte ones only last between 15minutes and a year though

mike
Old 11-11-02, 02:01 PM
  #13  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

iTrader: (1)
 
Turbonut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NJ
Posts: 3,963
Received 54 Likes on 44 Posts
Original owner '89TII-Never replaced the alternator. Only on 2nd battery.
Old 11-11-02, 02:22 PM
  #14  
Full Member

 
Tjive999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Chesterfield, MO
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I thought my alternator was bad because I took it to Auto Zone for their free alternator testing and they said it was bad. But I took it to the dealer and had them look at it and they said that the alternator would pass then fail then pass then fail. They were puzzled until they looked over and saw my negative battery cable glowing red. Somehow the connection on the battery had becomed corroded and they said they fixed it, but when I have my headlights on and my windshield wipers going and then hit my brakes, my radio cuts out. And occasionally will cut out with just when I hit my brakes. I think it's the battery cable still but not sure.



-Matt
Old 11-11-02, 02:39 PM
  #15  
Former Moderator. RIP Icemark.
 
Icemark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Rohnert Park CA
Posts: 25,896
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 19 Posts
It been my experience that non-mazda rebuilt alts only have about a 1 to 2 year life span.

I think that people or companies that rebuild them only replace the parts that are worn out, and not everything that should be done to truly remanufacture one.

But factory Mazda alts seem to last at least 100k miles usually to around 150K miles. They are by far worth the extra money, just like the Mazda thermostats.
Old 11-12-02, 09:12 AM
  #16  
Senior Member

 
mizike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Largo, FL
Posts: 375
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, I got my car working last night. I put the alternator back on and recharged the battery. Too a few times to start her up but it did. The connections to the Alternator is a little loose so I think that was my problem. I hope to fix that some day.
Old 11-12-02, 09:41 AM
  #17  
Senior Member

 
JumpyRoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 690
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Are T2 alternators the same as N/A? If so, I have like, three of them for whoever wants 'em.
Old 11-12-02, 12:40 PM
  #18  
Senior Member

 
Jodoolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 596
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My first '90 died at 325,700. It had the original alternator in it. Never failed, never rebuilt, never a problem.
Old 11-12-02, 12:59 PM
  #19  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
apreludem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: houston
Posts: 905
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ok...so that "beep......beep.......beep.....beep" noise is your alternator going bad?? hmm...
Old 11-12-02, 02:14 PM
  #20  
Former Moderator. RIP Icemark.
 
Icemark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Rohnert Park CA
Posts: 25,896
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 19 Posts
Originally posted by apreludem
ok...so that "beep......beep.......beep.....beep" noise is your alternator going bad?? hmm...
No, that is the sound of a bad answer...

beeps are from the power steering computer reporting an error
Old 11-12-02, 02:26 PM
  #21  
SOLD THE RX-7!

 
Scott 89t2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 7,451
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by apreludem
ok...so that "beep......beep.......beep.....beep" noise is your alternator going bad?? hmm...
he said high rpm killed it, he kept it beeping... that was a joke aki redline buzzer..

I'm pretty sure mine is stock with 105k miles on it. athough with a e-fan, ign box, big stereo, rewired fd pump, with brakes pressed and lights on I'm only getting 12v at idle now... 13.5 while driving. need an FD one.

Last edited by Scott 89t2; 11-12-02 at 02:31 PM.
Old 11-12-02, 02:42 PM
  #22  
Full Member

 
Cameljoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Dix Hills, NY
Posts: 240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I thought most altnators die due to either the rectifier or the regulator burning out.

Last edited by Cameljoe; 11-12-02 at 02:48 PM.
Old 11-12-02, 03:14 PM
  #23  
RX-7 Bad Ass

iTrader: (55)
 
DaleClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 15,399
Received 2,438 Likes on 1,509 Posts
I think a lot of alternator problems really aren't the alternator, they're worn wiring and connections. That's why I've built a whole new charging/starting harness for my car .

Dale
Old 11-12-02, 04:23 PM
  #24  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (6)
 
RotaryWeaponSE7EN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Mission,KS
Posts: 2,937
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Thanks for helping everyone with that scott.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Captain Hook
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
13
10-04-15 06:35 PM
Robrods64
New Member RX-7 Technical
6
10-02-15 07:56 PM
WANKfactor
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
6
09-29-15 01:14 PM



Quick Reply: what kills alternators so much?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:11 PM.