what do you think about this afr-monitor! would be a nice feature!
was looking for some way to monitor my afr while boostin'!!
http://www.pagparts.com/perfpts9.asp...gtuc&mfrid=187
what do you think about that one? any reviews?
http://www.pagparts.com/perfpts9.asp...gtuc&mfrid=187
what do you think about that one? any reviews?
Ted is recommending a stock narrowband monitoring device!
would be cheesy: http://www.fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/EL/GAUGES/afr.htm
would be cheesy: http://www.fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/EL/GAUGES/afr.htm
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 29,798
Likes: 128
From: London, Ontario, Canada
There are certainly reasons to use a A/F gauge on the narrowband. It will tell you when the engine is in closed loop, if your emission controls are working, if you are dangerously lean, etc. You just won't be doing any tuning with it...
Trending Topics
i use the innovate wideband......these 2 links is what i use
LC-1 lambda cable and the XD-1 guage ..with these, i can still hook THIS system up and still run my narrow band with THIS sensor..so you can watch your wideband readins and still have the narrow band at the same time with 1 O2 sensor!!!!!
LC-1 lambda cable and the XD-1 guage ..with these, i can still hook THIS system up and still run my narrow band with THIS sensor..so you can watch your wideband readins and still have the narrow band at the same time with 1 O2 sensor!!!!!
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
There are certainly reasons to use a A/F gauge on the narrowband. It will tell you when the engine is in closed loop, if your emission controls are working, if you are dangerously lean, etc. You just won't be doing any tuning with it...
so i think the narrowband one is reasonable...
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
And this is based on? Didn't you just blow up your engine? 

how could that possibly be in any way related to a narrow band?
i dont even use one of thise pieces of crap....
can you use a narrow band? sure!
would i reccomend using one?? NO!
do they help in any performance or reliable way? barley!
is it worth to spend the money on it? IMHO NO!
get one...im not here to stop ya....
the narrowband is doing the same as the wideband, just way slower and less precise!
why else would mazda put in such sensor if it was crap??
and like i posted: it would be for MONITORING REASONS not fine tuning!!
why else would mazda put in such sensor if it was crap??
and like i posted: it would be for MONITORING REASONS not fine tuning!!
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,598
Likes: 10
From: Temple, Texas (Central)
Narrow bands are useful for monitoring purposes, as stated. It can give you a general idea of whats happening, just nothing precise enough for tuning. It would be a very useful thing for someone that has a turbo car but can't afford a wideband yet. It will let him know where he's standing fuel wise and whether hes about to blow the motor or not.
Why spend cash on a sub par narrowband when you could spend a little more for a wideband and neverh ave to buy again. narrowbands arent good for anything but ballpark, which scares me
and by ballpark i mean lean, stoich, or rich... and thats about all the info you get
and by ballpark i mean lean, stoich, or rich... and thats about all the info you get
i am by no means picking apart your choice..i just dont want to see another rotarty dead like mine
if you chose the narrowband then congrats
if you try to do any tuning just please be careful!

if you chose the narrowband then congrats

if you try to do any tuning just please be careful!
originally posted by me: that's what i'm looking for! it will be used as a controlling device during normal operation of the car. dyno adjustments will be performed with a standalone wideband of my dyno-specialist!
so i think the narrowband one is reasonable...
so i think the narrowband one is reasonable...
... oh yes man, i almost cried when my TII died... so after rebuild i'll be veeery careful with it
Originally Posted by airworks-fc3s
sure right,
i wouldn't call a 40$ to 350$ difference in price "spending a little more" though...
i wouldn't call a 40$ to 350$ difference in price "spending a little more" though...



