enrique

Now that I have taken out my ac and heater there are some plugs on the dash harness that I no longer need. I plan to use a pin extractor ang remove those wires cleaning up the under dash harness quite abit. anybody done this? any problems I can have from doing this? like always, thanks in adavance.

1SxyRXy

why do you want to get rid of wires under the dash. just take your heater core and ac core out and tuck the wires away, and if you want to get rid of wires in the engine bay just go haltach

enrique

cause I don't want to. but seriously though. thats how I want the car set up. really clean. those wires don't need to be there since they won't be in use. I am not talking about anything to do with the engine. just the under dash harness. stand alone is in the future but I am no where near that phase of my build up.

Digi7ech

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Too much for for almost no gain.

Especially if your going for the interior harness.

Besides. If you ever sell the car you'll get nothing for a car without AC. Best to leave the electroncis so you can hook it back up later.

NZConvertible

You can't see any of if, and it'll weigh practically nothing. So what's the point of all that effort? All you're doing is making it impossible to reinstall that stuff later.

enrique

who said I was ever going to reinstall anything? I don't plan on selling this car either. I just wanted to know who had done this and if they had any problems. I took out all the ac/heater and threw it away for a reason. it has no use for this car. this is a track/weekend car that doesn't need any of that.


edit oh and weight is not an issue. I just want to simplify.

CrispyRX7

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enrique,
I'm with you one this one. I'm in the process of building a race car and have a gutted interior. I'd bet half the wiring harness is unused at this point (no A/C, no PS, no audio system, no interior lights, etc etc). I have been eyeing removing the excess wiring simply to make it easier to diagnose electrical gremlins in the future if ever need be.
Have a question for you though...what is a "pin extractor" and where can I get one?
TIA
Crispy

Aaron Cake

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OK. There's no technical problem with doing this. It's also easy. Get a factory service manual, match up the colours, and remove the wires...

Now, why someone would go through all the trouble is a different matter...

enrique

thanks Aaron. I just want to do it. learn now on a car I can afford to make mistakes on for future knowledge and know how.

Crispy: its a tool they use on computer or electrical connections. if you have say 5 wires in a connector and you reverse 2 you can simply put the tool in the connector end. this will allow you to correct a mistake. there are a male and female tool. I have only seen these on the net and only learned of them a couple weeks ago. I read that Radio Shack should have these. just look up pin extractor on yahoo and you will see what I am talkign about. they don't cost that much either.

SnowmanSteiner

Another idea, if you want to get gung ho with this, is to re-wire them all. Run all new wires. A lot of people don't understand that our cars are 16 or so years old, and the wiring ain't that great anymore. I respect what you are doing, and I think it is a wise decision, to get rid of the extra wires. Talk to NOTA944, he re-wired his entire car, so if there are any pointers I'm sure he can help you out.

- Steiner

enrique

I didn't want to get that involved. lol. my firend did a rhd conversion on his FD and his brother is re-wiring that and I think that might get me in over my head.

Turblown

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I have done. Don't even attempt it without a FSM. I also moved the relays/fuse box to under my dash. Now removing wires under the dash is a little excessive. I have also done that before and I would never ever do it again.

theloudroom

I'm not sure if you know this or not, but you'll need the RIGHT pin extractor for the connector.

They come in a variety of sizes for different connectors.

I don't really know what the connectory you're talking about looks like, but just bear that in mind. Radioshack probably carries pin extractors for RS232 connectors, but that may not be the right size for you.

NZConvertible

So why didn't you say that in the first place? Then people might understand why you want to do this.

I believe there are two A/C harnesses that can unplugged from the rest of the loom. Just remove them and be done with it. Removing each wire individually is just a waste of time.

j9fd3s

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i wieghed an fc rear harness and it was only 8lbs, even if you cut half of the wires out its still a lot of work for a 4lbs gain

enrique

the dash is already out of the car so removing some wires isn't gonna be that hard. like I said above its not about removing weight, just useless cabin items. ie ac and heater which are already gone.

I was already planning on taking the harness with me to get the right tool. thanks

I made a sig to help clear the confusion. Durring my attempt to remove wires I will see how far I plan on taking this.

gambone

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Hi my name is Steve Gambone and I own a 76 RX4.After I got done strippen my motor there was a ton of wires that went no where and my thinking is like yours I OWN IT, The Snap on Tool guy, Radio Shack, they got lots of them pin tools

pengarufoo

I've done this.

It's simply tedious and time consuming, it's not difficult.

The end result is simplicity and cleanliness, but if you're doing it for weight savings or performance gain forget it.

I was really annoyed with the random connectors hanging around the engine bay and elsewhere that were unused, especially after a haltech install... so I removed all the unused wiring.

I would probably do it again too, it's no big deal. I also found some questionable crimps that I was happy to fix.

The other option is to just pull the wiring out altogether and install a painless wiring generic harness with your basic functions...

TonyTurboII

Worth every penny:

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enrique

will be ordering this tomorrow. thanks

banzaitoyota

And when you are done, use this to rewrap your harness in:
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