oregano

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Mods, if you feel like it please move this to "general rotary tech" forum. Thanks : )

NOTE: This is NOT intended to be a discussion about whether WaterWetter works or not, whether to mix with coolant or not, and etc. There about a 100 threads which debate those topics.


I am wondering if anyone has experience or some facts that would suggest that WaterWetter could cause damage to the rubber seals in the engine? I have read (on Aaron Cake's rx7 site) that the red coolants can cause damage to rubber seals. I was wondering if WaterWetter would do the same (ie, what are the damage causing ingredients in red coolant and are they also present in WaterWetter?).

I appologize if the answer is already in the forums somewhere. I have searched but did not find the answer i was looking for. If someone can point me to a Thread or suggest a keyword search to use that would be great.


Thanks,

Baz

jjwalker

Personally, I wouldn't use it. It contains ethers which can cause rather disasterous results with rubber.

Redline Water Wetter's MSDS:

Dilsopropyl alcohol ether: 1-40%
Tri isopropyl alcohol diether: 1-40%
Sodium molybdate: 2-10%
Tolyltriazole: 1-3%
Polysiloxane polymer: n/a
(there are CAS#'s for those)

Trade name: RED LINE WaterWetter
chemical name: glycol ether mixture
specific gravity: 1.09
Water solubility: miscible @ 25C
odor: faint odor
stable: yes
incompatibility: strong acids, oxidizing agents
polymerization: will not occur
thermal decomposition: oxides of carbon including carbon monoxide
Ventilation: recommended
gloves: rubber gloves recommended

ericgrau

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I believe Aaroncake is refering to GM Dex Cool and similar antifreezes which quickly cause serious damage in our cars. If Redline causes damage then it's a total coincidence. The dye in both are only dye; the color itself has no effect. It is merely an indicator of the type of antifreeze and has nothing to do with the red color of other liquids.

I could be wrong but some brief skimming through google seems to indicate that the main difference is the organic acids in the red antifreeze. The ingredient list above does not seem to contain any organic acids, nor the compounds found in green antifreeze for that matter.

clokker

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I've used WW since the eighties in dozens of engines and have never seen any evidence of seal damage.

/$.02

J-Rat

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Ive used it in all of my cars with no issues..

fc3s91

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I have been using water wetter in my racecar for years. The problem is most people don't service there coolant system every year. So electrolysis accures in the system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water .
That my 2 cents.

oregano

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thank you for all the good input guys : ) it helped a lot.


cheers,

Baz

drftinmx6

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do yall mix the water wetter with coolant or water? or both?

Aaron Cake

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WaterWetter isn't really a coolant, it is more like a surfactant. It works by lowering the surface tension of water. It's fine to use with our engines, I use it all the time.

Yes, I was referring to GM style DexCool when speaking of "red" coolants. Apparently there are now "red" coolants that are safe for any vehicle, but I have not tried them. I just use regular old ethylene glycol from the auto parts store.

Note that if you have any minor coolant leaks, adding WaterWetter will find them quickly.