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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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water temp gauge

is the water temp gauge suppose to come with some kind of sensor to read the water temperature? reason i ask this is because the car i purchased came with a greddy water temp sensor but it was not installed. It is sitting in the pod in the a pillar. I wanted to install it but i have no clue how to. I went to greddy's site and i didn't see any thing regarding manuals or guides. Does the gauge only come with wires, and if so, then how is it suppose to "read" the water's temperature? if its suppose to come with a sensor of some kind, where would i find it in my engine bay? The person who i purchased the car from said he didn't have time to install the gauge this is why its just sitting there.

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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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That sucks...And he didn't even tell you if anything (like sensor wiring) was connected to the gauge?

Does your dash water temp gauge work?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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my dash one works, however, i think it is not working right. The gauge barely makes it to 1/4 ..if not 1/5 of the way up, And its summer time and its hot as hell. I'm concerned cause the underhood temps is soo hot. I just lean over the engine for a second and my necklase gets hot enough to burn my skin. I can't put my hand above the engine cause it will burn. Its like opening up an oven door after you have baked something...really really hot.

i know the underhood temps has nothing to do with what the water temp reads. I think about it like this...if the underhood temps is that hot, keeping in mind that heat from the radiator gets blown inside the engine bay by the fan, then the water going to the radiator must be incredibly hot. This is why i think my gauge is not reading correctly.

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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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so you said the sensor is sitting in the car? it should have a plug off the sensor then you wiring from the gauge should have a plug on it, the greddy gauge is a electrical gauge so if you have the sensor you should be able to tap it in somwee around the water pump and run your wires, no matter what the sensor is going to have to be tapped into something
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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im not sure if i have the sensor or not..i need to know where it would be located in the engine bay and what it looks like. So what you are saying is that the greddy gauge just comes with the gauge and the wires right? if so, how does it messure water temp with just wires? Thanks again.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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it has a sensor thats electric, the sensor is going to have threads on the end of it so you can screw it into something (i believe i had to buy a 1/8 npt tap) if you dont see this inside the car, maybe the guy already tapped it in, but i think if he went threw this trouble the gauge would probably be hooked up cause thats the hard part, theres not really any way to know were he put it so just look around your block were water passes (the correct place to tap the sensor is before the thermostat) and see if you see something that screwed in with 2 wires coming out of it that not hooked up to nothing, it should have a plug at the end of it
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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so its suppose to be tapped in before the thermo..hmm...if you have a pic i would be really thankful :p

Ill look for it today..thanks.
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sorry i dont have a cam, maybe somebody else will post a pic for you
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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does anyone have a pic of the sensor so that i know what i am looking for? =) thanks.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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I'm thinking the guy bought the gauge, couldn't find a good place to tap into, figured it was too much trouble, and either "lost" the sender/wiring, or it may be in the car somewhere...

First place I would look for something like that (since your OEM gauge sender is still there) is on the back of the water pump housing, down there behind the alternator. See if any 1-wire harness is running around in that area. Is there wiring coming off the back of the new gauge?

If you can't find the sender or wiring, you might have to get with GReddy & see if you can purchase them seperately. The OEM sender location would be the best spot to place your new sender, since your original gauge seems to be shot, but it will take some "adapting" to fit the OEM threads, which may position the sensor too far from the coolant stream (I wouldn't think something under 1/2" away from OEM location would matter, due to the cohesion & thermal properties of water, but who knows). There are several threads dealing with aftermarket temp sensor locations- see if a search will help you...
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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thanks a lot wayne88n/a
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by WAYNE88N/A

First place I would look for something like that (since your OEM gauge sender is still there) is on the back of the water pump housing, down there behind the alternator. See if any 1-wire harness is running around in that area. Is there wiring coming off the back of the new gauge?

This confused me.. the OEM water temp sender is just above the oil pressure sender, by the oil filter on the drivers side of the motor.

Also, there is a plug located on the intermediate housing (IIRC) that is ideal for adding an aftermarket temp sensor. I can get you the exact location for it. Also, my 10th AE generally never goes above like 1/8th on the gauge (course I do have the K2RD rad).

Sounds like your primary gauge is working fine, but I would add the aftermarket gauge to be sure.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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what are the underhood temps suppose to be at anyways? im gonna take readings soon...
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Sorry to confuse you, Rat, I was trying to lead him to the location the guy MIGHT have tapped the GReddy sender into...

Hey, where's that spot on the center housing? Never seen it before, not that I've been looking for it, though, but ya never know if I'll need it in the future
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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on the driver's side of the motor...to the left of the spark plugs....in between the A/C compressor lugs
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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Did you find the location Rat was talking about, or did you find your GReddy sender there?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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thats the location rat was talking about.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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that would be the front housing, then, not the center (to the "left" of the plugs, between the AC comp lugs)...

I'll have to look for that one of these days...

Did you get everything straightened out?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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yeah front housing...you got 4 spark plugs total..the plug is to the left of the first two spark plugs...i had a pic that rat send me but i didn't save it =( that doesn't help you much lol
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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That's all right- I'll find it when I need to, everything's still nice & clean from the rebuild, & I don't have AC or PS in the way anymore, so it won't be a prob...

Don't let it happen again, though, j/k
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:36 AM
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Its the front housing... I was smoking crack when I said intermediate housing...

Sorry, that crack kinda befuddles my mind..
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:50 AM
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Are these the pics you need? Jrat sent these to me a while ago.






That's what I used! Worked super great.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:59 AM
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Damn son... Thats perfect. Who ever said the board didnt have good info?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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damn straight...that is perfect..thanks!
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Thanks guys...How much hotter do the normal temps run with the sensor at this location? The coolant has run past both rotor housing combustion areas by the time it gets to the sensor, versus the OEM one that is forward of said housings, is there a "calibration" involved?

That probably would have been the best place for the OEM sensor, come to think of it...

Rat- get off that crack, man, use the money for car parts, tail lights, stuff like that

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