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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 02:50 AM
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using N/A elbow for fmic setup?

im considering saving some money for now, and using an N/A throttle body elbow,

has anyone used one for this type of application?

sleeperfc i know has used one

im looking to see if anyone else has used them with success.

i will be using 2.5" IC piping.

thanks,DAn
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 03:12 AM
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im considering saving some money for now, and using an N/A throttle body elbow,

has anyone used one for this type of application?

sleeperfc i know has used one

im looking to see if anyone else has used them with success.

i will be using 2.5" IC piping.

thanks,DAn
Theres nothing hard about it, you just gotta use a different oil fill tube..
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 04:29 AM
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Good place to source the required silicone adapter.
http://www.turbohoses.com/

For the oil fill neck just cut the lower and upper pieces at an angle to clear the the intake and weld them together to form a tube that makes about a 30* bend.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 02:39 AM
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Good place to source the required silicone adapter.
http://www.turbohoses.com/

For the oil fill neck just cut the lower and upper pieces at an angle to clear the the intake and weld them together to form a tube that makes about a 30* bend.
have any more pictures of how you did it?
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 03:55 AM
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I never liked using the N/A elbow, even with T-bolt clamps it would pop off.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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I would also love to see some more pics or a little more detailed information on using the na elbow for a TII because I will be doing the same thing
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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I never liked using the N/A elbow, even with T-bolt clamps it would pop off.
yes... thats what happens when you put it on plastic..... However, if you put a small piece of pipe( like a ring) that is a lil bit smaller than the opening of the elbow, then you wont have the problem.... You can overtighten it like a bish....
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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isnt the N/A elbow like 3 1/14" ID?

i'll just have to figure out some kind of clamp figuration to be sure of it gripping to my 2.5" piping
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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i was going to suggest what martin said.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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do you have to take the WHOLE filler neck out? (even from the iron) because i was test fitting tonight, and it seems that you do... but that doesnt make any sense..... isnt it held in there really good?
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yes... thats what happens when you put it on plastic..... However, if you put a small piece of pipe( like a ring) that is a lil bit smaller than the opening of the elbow, then you wont have the problem.... You can overtighten it like a bish....

We've run 20psi on the setup in the pic without issue. I now have three cars on the road using the plastic elbow without a problem with any of them.

As far as the oil fill neck we cut down a stock piece and weld up a new neck. The one in the pick isn't being used anymore. I'll sell it for $20 shipped.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo-polak
have any more pictures of how you did it?

No. Not sure what else you need. Bolt the plastic elbow to the throttle body and attach the intake pumbing. The oil fill neck is the only thing that needs to be addressed. The filler neck comes out rather easily. Using a hammer you can tap them out without problem.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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We've run 20psi on the setup in the pic without issue. I now have three cars on the road using the plastic elbow without a problem with any of them.

As far as the oil fill neck we cut down a stock piece and weld up a new neck. The one in the pick isn't being used anymore. I'll sell it for $20 shipped.

thanks for the pic... i just cut mine, and brazed it back together...


now i gotta worry about the air sensor...
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 04:19 AM
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Good spot for the air sensor is the hole where the double throttle used to go.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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That's not a good place for it. When the secondary throttles are closed there'll be no airflow over it.

The NA elbow can be drilled and tapped for the AIT sensor, or you could weld a boss to the IC pipe and drill and tap that.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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That's not a good place for it. When the secondary throttles are closed there'll be no airflow over it.

The NA elbow can be drilled and tapped for the AIT sensor, or you could weld a boss to the IC pipe and drill and tap that.

drilling and tapping plastic? i love it....

but ya, thats what i figured i'd have to do..... when i had my turbo GTI, i welded a bung onto the IC pipe for the air temp sensor...

pictures are coming soon...

cheers,Dan.
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...that was his second suggestion...
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo-polak
drilling and tapping plastic? i love it....
And that's funny because...
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
yes... thats what happens when you put it on plastic..... However, if you put a small piece of pipe( like a ring) that is a lil bit smaller than the opening of the elbow, then you wont have the problem.... You can overtighten it like a bish....
do you mean to put a metal ring between the plastic elbow and the coupler so the coupler is actually touching the metal ring instead of gripping the plastic??
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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That must be one nasssty first gen. What is the radiator setup?
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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And that's funny because...
because its plastic. i wasnt laughing at your suggestion, i appreciate it, and thats most likely what i'll end up doing
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 88rxn/a
do you mean to put a metal ring between the plastic elbow and the coupler so the coupler is actually touching the metal ring instead of gripping the plastic??
no, i mean put a ring underneath the plastic, so that you can tighten it like if it was metal.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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i think i get... mine popped off today... thought i blew it up...man i was nervous...im just trying to visualize this...im sorry for bein a....
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