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Old 07-05-04, 11:05 AM
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Using the ac fan as a radiator cooler...

Anyone ever used the ac fan to cool the rad??? I was just wondering, since I took out the condenser the fan is right there... if ones is not enough, maybe 2???
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I think it would cause more drag than extra air personaly. Plus I think its pull only, so you woulnd't be able to use it on the right side of the radiator anyhow. Then again maybe it is push...
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Its push.
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If you are going to use an electric fan by itself on the radiator, I'd use something a little bigger. I ordered this from Jegs last month. Its on back order, but they said it should ship out today.

http://www.jegs.com//cgi-bin/ncommer...84&prmenbr=361
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you can reverse the fan if needed. Im gunna try it out... before, I had gone to the junk to pik up a fan, and it worked great.... but now I dont have those ***** and its too hot to go to the junk and search for good used ones... I guess ill try this out and see how the temp needle gets...

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Originally posted by MARTIN
you can reverse the fan if needed. Im gunna try it out... before, I had gone to the junk to pik up a fan, and it worked great.... but now I dont have those ***** and its too hot to go to the junk and search for good used ones... I guess ill try this out and see how the temp needle gets...

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What? I highly doubt you can just swap the polarity on any stock fan from any car... I could be wrong though
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Originally posted by Project84
If you are going to use an electric fan by itself on the radiator, I'd use something a little bigger. I ordered this from Jegs last month. Its on back order, but they said it should ship out today.

http://www.jegs.com//cgi-bin/ncommer...84&prmenbr=361
Have fun when that fan fails. Mine just did. I went to the black magic.
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Have fun when that fan fails. Mine just did. I went to the black magic.
and yet you don't bless us with a url? seriously, though, where do most people seem to order black magic fans from? i was curious of what a fan that you had, which broke, costs compared to the ones most everyone raves about.
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and yet you don't bless us with a url? seriously, though, where do most people seem to order black magic fans from? i was curious of what a fan that you had, which broke, costs compared to the ones most everyone raves about.
I had the permacool finger chopper. Great fan, flows mad air, but is VERY prone to failure.

SO, I went to the Black magic 150 fan. Got it from Jegs (www.jegs.com). I got the blue shrouded one to match my engine bay color.

Cost comparison? Well, the finger chopper runs 99.00, and the Black Magic runs about 219.00. BIG difference in price. As of now it seems like a nice fan. Still havent had it long enough to make a real informed assesment of it.
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The A/C fan can be used as a pusher, or puller.

I'm using the A/C fan as an 'extra' e-fan, along with my main VintageAir e-fan.

I does work pretty well. Temperatures drop a bit quicker with it, than when its unplugged.

I used to have the main fan come on at 91C and then the A/C fan at 93C. Now I'm just running them together.

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Ooohh.. the vintage air fan!!
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im going to try a junkyard fan. i think it will do everything i need. i have a custom radiator so its bigger than stock. its acutally a chevy aftermarket aluminum radiator.
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okay, i've gotta be a cheapskate and ask about a couple of the other fans.

Flex-a-lite S-Blade Cooling Fan; 16'' Diameter Syclone-HP Electric Fan: $119.99
Fan Diameter: 16''
Max. RPM: 2380
Airflow: 2500 CFM
AMP Draw: 17.0
Size: 16-5/8'' x 15-3/4'' x 4''

Flex-a-Lite Black Magic Heavy Duty Electra-Fan: $199.99
Fan Diameter: 15''
Max. RPM: 2200(?)
Airflow: 2800 CFM
AMP Draw: 13.9
Size: 18''x16''x4-1/4"

Perma-Cool High Performance Electric Fans
16": $99.99
specs??

i'd also like to know if a warranty is offered.
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Dude, you want MINIMUM 2800 CFM.
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thanks... DUDE!
so the Black Magic fan JUST meets your MINIMUM requirement??
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Originally posted by J-Rat
Have fun when that fan fails. Mine just did. I went to the black magic.
You also said it was prone to failure. Do you know a bunch of people who had one of these fans crap out? Did you have yours running all the time or how was it hooked up?

My car isn't a daily driver, and I'll have the haltech turn the fan on based on coolant temp. I'll see how long it last me.
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I ran it via thermostatic control. It only ran when needed. Now, a couple of years ago, there was a rash of those fans failing. Maybe they are improved now. Honestly I liked the finger chopper, I just changed to the Black Magic because of what I heardl
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I'm going to say it again, Stock Ford Escort fan works the greatest. It's what Kevin Landers recommends on his website and it's what i have installed. Cost me $30 for the fan just had to wire it in. At the moment it's wired in to always be on and the engine is cooler then stock. Has its own shroud and has 2 setting, high and low. I have it on low.

It fits perfectly and fits like it was mean for the car. Cheap guys, it's REALLY cheap.
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for $70 more, you can get a new Perma-Cool. i don't know how much i'd trust a used fan. what year Escorts? i guess if it's not that old i wouldn't mind as much. i wonder how reliable they are in the long run.

oh, and j-rat, you recommended 2800cfm "MINIMUM." i have an n/a and a brand new koyo (not even installed yet). i don't think i need a hardcore setup like those running front mounts.
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96+ is the year. And for $30 I'd say it's not bad. I've read the threads on other E-Fans and none of them seem to have great reliability.
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Originally posted by Parastie
96+ is the year. And for $30 I'd say it's not bad. I've read the threads on other E-Fans and none of them seem to have great reliability.
cool, thanks for the up and up. of course, $30 was from what, a local junkyard? guess i'll see what ones around here charge. i assume thats where you got it. any other suggestions??
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Yeah local junkyard. I got the idea from http://www.rotaryresurrection.com under emissions removal if you want more info, you might check there to make sure i have the correct year.
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thanks again, man.
"Most of the time I get OEM junkyard fans from such cars as Pontiac fiero, ford escort 91-96 (my favorite) and ford Taurus late 80s-mid 90’s. The escort fan in particular fits the stock FB and FC radiators almost perfectly, and the fan itself is big and strong and moves a TON of air."
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Originally posted by Kenteth
What? I highly doubt you can just swap the polarity on any stock fan from any car... I could be wrong though
yes the polarity changes if you switch the wires....trust me I tried it.....
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wow, error, then deletes my post... damnit !
so yes, thanks.. blah blah.. and this for everyone else:
"Most of the time I get OEM junkyard fans from such cars as Pontiac fiero, ford escort 91-96 (my favorite) and ford Taurus late 80s-mid 90’s. The escort fan in particular fits the stock FB and FC radiators almost perfectly, and the fan itself is big and strong and moves a TON of air."

i knew that would post twice... sorry! but this one stays!!

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