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Old 08-13-03, 11:46 AM
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Upgrading Brake system and lines
I need some help, I have An 88 4 lug SE, I am upgrading it system by system and I am doing the 4 lug to 5 lug conversion, with the upgraded 4 piston calipers, anyway I am about to order the Goodridge SS brake lines and noticed that there are two types, one with the sport suspension, which was not available on the SE and ones with out. So basically what is the difference? I mean I dont have the sport suspension so I should get the ones that are for models w/ rear disc & solid rear axle. But if I were to upgrade to sport suspension, would it make a difference? Thanks for the help in advance I am just confused as to what is the difference between these two sets of lines

I posted this on the Suspension/Wheels/Tires/Brakes, but I did not seem to get any feedback, so I thought I could try here, thanks
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When doing the 4 to 5 lug conversion:
1. Use the GXL or TII Master Cyinder and Brake booster assembly
2. Also use the correct proportioning valve that came with whatever Master cylinder you are using.

Use the soprt lines
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Also if you are going to 5 lug this guy will give you a great deal on some cross/slotted rotors.
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I got mine and had them completely powder coated in red. they look sweet. can't wait to get them on.
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
When doing the 4 to 5 lug conversion:
1. Use the GXL or TII Master Cyinder and Brake booster assembly
2. Also use the correct proportioning valve that came with whatever Master cylinder you are using.

Use the soprt lines
so do i get the master cylinder with or with out adjustable suspension, since i am getting the lines for the sport suspension?
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I am assuming without, since i don't have ABS and since mazdatrix only sells without ABS or AAS
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"with the upgraded 4 piston calipers"

how do u upgrade calipers?
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well i meant upgrade from (as) opposed to stock
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so do i get the master cylinder with or with out adjustable suspension, since i am getting the lines for the sport suspension?
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without. I think. call mazdatrix and ask them.
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yeah i think i am going to have to, thanx
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Re: Upgrading Brake system and lines Need Info

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Upgrading Brake system and lines
......I am about to order the Goodridge SS brake lines.....
Here's a tip: When you order these, make sure that you know that they are in stock. If not, get a delivery time estimate!

I was in the process of ordering them, when the guy said - "Oh, and they are on an 8 - 10 week backorder."
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Yeah Thanx, they are in stock, should be 2 days...but now i am confused about the master cylinder
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Sorry for the temporary thread jack, but:

I know that with the 4-piston calipers, there is more even clamping and wear, but I was wondering, does upgrading from the single piston to the four piston decrease breaking distance/reduce fade or anything?
I just want to know if it is really worth it.
-Ben
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I am no expert, but I think it is a significant upgrade as far as specifically how, I would not know. I am doing a restoration/ upgrade to every system and the first thing that needed to be fixed was the brake system so I upgraded, it also helped that Kevin Landers was selling the parts on here for a decent price so I jumped on it.
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Originally posted by CRXtoRX7
Sorry for the temporary thread jack, but:

I know that with the 4-piston calipers, there is more even clamping and wear, but I was wondering, does upgrading from the single piston to the four piston decrease breaking distance/reduce fade or anything?
I just want to know if it is really worth it.
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Does anyone have any info on this?
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I second that.
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yes. all the models that came with the the good brakes stop faster than the models with the single piston brakes. I don't remember the numbers, but I have seen them. it should also reduce fade as the rear rotors are now vented, so they should cool off better.

you can also feel the difference. I did the swap a while ago, and now under hard braking my face feels like its going to fall off. it didn't do that w/ the 4 lug brakes.
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if you upgrade to 5-lug rotors you're going to need those 4 piston calipers (I think). The rear calipers are the same on all models (also, I think).
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The cars that have the 4-piston fronts have the same size in the back, they are just vented.
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oops, didn't see bigretardedhead's post.
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Cool Thanks,
That's soom good info, i cant wait until my " face feels like it is going to fall off"
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makes me think of the movie "Equilibrium," they guy gets the front of his face sliced off...haha, good luck with your upgrades,
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Yeah thanks i am waiting for my rotors, should be in tom. and i think the SS brake lines will be in tonight or Tom. so i am looking forward to it.


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