FEARED7

hey nick and Patrick. yall appologize! No playa hatas alowed on the forum! lol
B

RETed

This looks like one of those stand-alone EMS brand wars!
You've got some pretty fiesty backers, but they play dirty...

I guess they get their rocks off trying to insult my ride, when there was never really nothing between us in the first place...go figure.

Hey, I don't profess to be the end-all authority on everything.&nbsp I give my personal experience on what I went through, and I don't care how you take it or leave it.

Maybe I've been reading too much Turbonetics literature.&nbsp We used to move a lot of inventory with a turbo shop up in Cameron in NorCal.&nbsp They use a pretty sophisticated dynamic balanced that used compressed air to spin the turbo rotating assemblys.&nbsp Oddly enough, they didn't find the need to spin it way high (close to 100kRPM) as other shops claim - they only spin them to 10kRPM or so on their air machine.&nbsp Talking with them, it was ingrained into my head that a properly balance turbo RA would be the best for rebuilding.&nbsp A lot of shops just static balance the RA's.&nbsp I assumed this was what you only did - I was WRONG about that.&nbsp Is that was the peanut gallery is looking for - to see if I would state I was WRONG?&nbsp Welp, I just did it.

It seems to me that Bryan does quality work, if there is anything POSITIVE that has come out from this bitchfest.&nbsp I still don't have any direct experience with BNR, but I've got nothing against them at this point (I never had one in the beginning?).

On the bad side, it's evident who doesn't like me anymore...&nbsp If you don't know me by now, this is the bad side of me...&nbsp I don't make any excuses - I know I'm not perfect...



-Ted

BoostedRotors

OK, so you got me on the whole "reitre from this thread" thing.

Im sure well see lots of each other on this forum, So let's leave whats on this thread here. I am not apologizing for anything that I have said here, as they are all my opinions, and I stand by every one. However, I dont want to think of the forum as a place that I come to argue, I come here to learn and help where I can.

You do your thing, Ill do mine.


---Nick

BoostedRotors

Again, I was just taking up for a good friend...as all good friends should.


this time I am retiring from this thread...no really!!

Felix Wankel

I wil recommend him even more when I eek out a 12 in the 1/4 with the turbo he built for me. Just gotta wait for a cool night

Megaspeed7

Yes, plainly speaking it will amount to you having 10k in mods on your car and running only a 13.4 @ slow MPH. The MPH of the 1/4 had almost nothing to do with driving skill, and only on the cars power. How come my stock motored car runs 111 mph when yours only ran 105?? My car is lowered too and is also cambered totally wrong yet I hit 1.8 60's on 225's. why don't you air your tires down to 17 psi and do a MEAN powerbraking burnout. You will lower your 60' time substantially I guarantee it. But since I am stupid and don't know anything about harmonic balancing, even though I agreed thats the best way (cause thats in ch 12 haven't finished the class yet).
Bryan, why don't you tell him that you actually do some harmonic balancing to remove vibrations so he will shut up already?

Also, You need to take that chip off your shoulder about Bryan's work. VSR balanced or not, his 16g rebuild (those spin at OUTRAGEOUS rpms) hasn't once flickered or spat a speck of oil at 22 psi. And that is what this thread is about isn't it?

And I didn't think you would see that Bryan was reading your statement about the T5/6 and S trim as being the SAME turbo. Why don't you look where he wrote it.

Here's the attack:
I guess If I didn't have a job for a FREAKING YEAR and had time to sit at home all damn day I would be a *little* more knowledgable about turbos. I got a TS04 and a 60-1 sitting right here next to my Greddy manifold and intercooler and I bet a beat you to getting one of them on my car and I'm in school full time mechanical engineering, and work as an intern for an oil company on top of that. But oh wait, is this resume bragging?? I hope you enjoy your myopic mind and only let in what you need to on this forum. If you are always freaking right about this stuff, then why aren't you running as fast as me? Why don't you GO WASH YOUR CAR!

Patrick Harris.

FEARED7

Fiesty is about right lol. I wouldn't give em a gun I tell ya! There would be blood all over this forum!!!

Felix Wankel

There's lots of people I'd rather kill than Ted

Megaspeed7

so whatever, do whatever you want.
My car looks like crap too, but its only got 927.00 in it to date and that includes the car. (not including the mods in my kitchen). Sounds like we were all in "the mood" tonight.
Patrick Harris

RETed

That's right...&nbsp Over $5,000 worth in tools and tooling just to work on the car.


See, that's the problem.&nbsp I didn't build my car to rule the drag strip, hence, my drag racing ability is not the best.&nbsp You obviously can drag better than I can - is that what you wanted to hear?&nbsp I DON'T brake-stand my car; I like to keep my brakes functioning.&nbsp I DON'T care if I can run any faster; I build it to rule in a top-end highway race.&nbsp The run was made on the Nitto NT-555R's at 20psi; it's not as "soft" as your 17psi, as I had to drive 20 miles back home to fill up the tires.&nbsp I DON'T abuse the crap out of my car just to say I ran a fast time.&nbsp Hell, why don't we put away the trash talking and go race down at the drag strip already?&nbsp If you're truly faster than I am, then you should be able to hand my *** on a silver platter pretty easily...


I have no direct experience with his rebuild 16G's.&nbsp Why would I be able to qualify a comment?


Then why you do think there was a miscommunication?&nbsp I think it's safe to say you have no idea what the difference between a T5/T6 wheel trim and an S-trim?


Sure, I guess you wouldn't believe me that I've been also searching for a job and have gone through at least 20+ interviews by now and have made countless phone calls.&nbsp You think I dedicate the majority of my waking hours reading all this ****?&nbsp Boy, you've got a twisted view of reality here...


Okay, sure.&nbsp How about you name the time and a place, and we'll see who is "faster"?&nbsp How about that for being fair?&nbsp Since you know how to trash talk like you know what you know what you're talking about.&nbsp How about a run at OLOA or OTC sometime next year?&nbsp Winner gets the losers car?&nbsp That's the CHALLENGE...&nbsp You game?

Man, at least I read the rest of the thread before I go mouthing off and looking stupid...&nbsp Come on bitch, TALK IS CHEAP - PUT UP OR SHUT UP.&nbsp We do the OLOA or OTC in 2003?&nbsp Winner gets losers car?&nbsp I guess all the stuff I've been posting hasn't been getting through your thick head, huh.&nbsp Yeah, so you've run faster than I have - you need a trophy for that or something?&nbsp Wash my car?&nbsp You still haven't told me what that does for speed or performance...



-Ted

FEARED7

hehe. Hey Patrick, you want to buy my 1st gen for a dollar?

RETed

Boy, now it turns into an excuse to blame your situation on your nasty comments?&nbsp Man, what happened to being responsible for your actions and what you say...

Damn slander lawyers would have a field day in here!



-Ted

FEARED7

yall chill out.. you are throwing it way outa proportion

Megaspeed7

Hell yeah I'm game, but lets do it NEXT MONTH. Why give these poeple a year to wait? How about you come down to Baton Rouge, La. for the Import Face off 2002 on May 26. I'll be there in the red TII. You can even stay at my house! You wanna put some laps on the 1.8 mile road course while we're are it too?! I Bet I put you in place there too. I am an established road racer through the SCCA and place very high in every event. You'd better sure hope you can afford a plane ticket back you idiot. And if it comes down to it I'll pull the LT1 powered 3rd gen with the 200 shot out and REALLY show you a fast car! No thanks B I don't need that much to beat this guy. So I guess you were planning on finishing your project by 2003. Shucks! don't think you are gonna make the deadline. Good luck with the BB turbo I am gonna be running the 60-1 and its only in a HIFI with P trim and .96 on the Greddy manifold So if you get your BB in I guess I am toast, but oh wait we have to take in account that you can't drive and that my car is a "RINGER" so I guess I will still win. And if you wanna get technical about the car wash, why don't you aks Nascar racers why they wax the cars before the races? But oh master RET(ard)ed you knew that already!
Patrick Harris

FEARED7

lets race on 3---------------2----------------1--------------GO!
mmmbadading ding ding ..... pow! Lets internet race like that Honda EX and the VW passat! God that video is great!

Megaspeed7

You are a complete idiot. What do you think it takes to read that little chart on turbocharged.com? I have that thing practically memorized. Did you read the post about the V trim? I also had an H3 wheel. Also machined a .63 garret exhaust housing to fit the stock rx-7 turbo with a V trim compressor and t3 heat sheild to fit on it. This is what I run on my AWD eclipse, you wanna lose to that car too? HAHA
PH

Megaspeed7

To anyone who hasn't seen it. Holy geez its hilarious.
I am done with the Wore out thread.

PH

Fd Envy

Bryan? from the old turbo specialties? this is Christian.....you built a couple of seq for the third gen and upgraded my t2 to a t3/t04b, how have you been? please do not try and dispute bryan's work, all the turbos that he has done for me, mine included were not wrongly represented or not what they were supposed to be....and by the way, how is 332 at 14psi all you doubters?

RETed

Alright, guess I'll die in a ball of fire, cause I need to track down why my fuel injectors are leaking (changed o-rings three times).&nbsp I guess I need to borrow some cash to slap on the turbo and Haltech just to show your *** up.&nbsp Add some racing slicks to it at the same time...&nbsp Boy, I can hear it now, excuses...excuses...


Uh, THAT explain everything!&nbsp NASCAR!&nbsp I should've known.&nbsp Guess you good ole' boys can show the rest of the world how to drive a car, huh?&nbsp Man, I guess if I wanted to run around 160-180mph, I really need to wash my car huh?&nbsp Think washing my car will give me a chance to beat your ringer?&nbsp Yeah, no wonder he's telling me to do it *smack head* I could really have a chance at beating him if I can just wash my car!&nbsp Damn, I am so stupid!

Man, I can't believe you are still here.&nbsp We've got our beef (between Bryan and I, I think?) all patched up, and you're still mouthing off about your sore ego.&nbsp WTF is wrong with you?&nbsp You taking medication or something?&nbsp I can't believe you still see something sore in this whole discussion.&nbsp Man, talk about chip on shoulders - I've apologized to Bryan about the misunderstanding.&nbsp I've apologize to Bryan about the slams.&nbsp What do I got to do, suck his dick for you?&nbsp What's crawling up your ***?&nbsp I said you're a better drag racer than I am - hell, you MIGHT even be a better road racer than I am.&nbsp Yet, you can't back off?&nbsp I can feel the rage coming through the coputer screen from your typing...&nbsp Someone stepped on your toes or something?




-Ted

FEARED7

Whats up Christian! Man whats going on?? Hope all is well in TN. 332 RWHP out of a stock modified turbine wheel at 14 psi!!! that is awesome. should up the boost a bit more! I will PM you.

RETed

Boy, what a great conclusion...

Well good for you...I had this problem when I was small eating fishing lead cause no one told me it was BAD to ut lead in your mouth,&nbsp My memory is shot - yes, you have a better memory than I do.&nbsp I must confess...

Why?&nbsp What does it have to do with recommending turbo shops?

Sure why not...you beating on my ***, why don't you bring your bicycle and tricycles and beat me with it too.

I'm sorry I can't meet you next month in LA; I feel my car isn't up to it's potential in it's sad shape right now.&nbsp It's a rolling fireball waiting to explode due to leaking injectors.&nbsp I'm sorry if having to wait next year is too long for you - I still don't see what's the big deal if you feel so confident on beating my *** now, what's another year going to do?&nbsp I'm sorry you can't show me how fast you are, because I have so many excuses for you.&nbsp I'm sorry that my credit card companies and debt collectors can't see the reason why I can't put more money into my car just for you when I own them close to $20,000 at this point.&nbsp I'm sorry I can't put my car up in it's existing shape with crappy Costco tires, when I'm trying to dig myself out of debt and straighten my life out at this time in a messed up economy.&nbsp I'm sorry I failed at meeting your expectations and instead turned out to be this ******* that you'd rather shoot with a loaded gun at point-blank range...

Is there anything else you want me to apologize for?



-Ted

BlackDragon

Thats right, just back the hell up! I'm a newbie in this forum. Check my sig I don't even have a 7 yet! (Still workin on it) But I do know this much. We're all on the same ******* team. (sorry moderator, can I say that? This just really has me pissed) I cannot believe the absolute childishness of some of the people on the forum. I have been know to blow up on people for things but with this all hell broke loose. I mean, LOOK AT THE GODDAMNED THREAD TITLE! It doesn't say "Ted vs. Bryan (and his minions): Ultimate Fighting Championship. I checked out this thread because I DONT know enough about turbos. I CAME HERE TO FIND OUT. What happened next? Well lets see. Someone recommended BNR. Ted recommended Turbonetics. Heres where things go bad. Someone said "Hey, what do you have against bryan?" Well shoot I dont have anything against Bryan, I dont even know the guy. NOR do I have anything against Ted, I don't know him either. So looking from a completely neutral standpoint I see the whole fight unraveling. Ted defends his viewpoint that he doesn't know Bryan and he's just recommending what he knows. People start criticizing him for that. Ted goes on the defensive and then BAM the artillary hits and the whole damned post turns into "TED YOUR CAR IS UGLY AND SLOW" and "YOU CANT BALANCE TURBO'S RIGHT!" Nobody was in the right here. Everyone played a small part. Bryan didn't openly attack but he could have diffused the situation a little earlier on. I'm not going to pick sides but one thing I want to say is "Where the hell are all of Ted's friends?" I mean what, all you guys that claim Ted is your buddy just backed off or something? Ted had several series of 3 or more posts where he was just trying to redeem himself from 3 or 4 attackers! WHAT IS THIS!?! In the end all I came out of this with is a teeny tiny bit more turbo knowledge and the realization that this forum has a serious problem with people getting along. Why the hell can't two people have different opinions on lets say for example static and dynamic balancing without people bringing up who's car is faster, who's washed theirs most recently, and hell while we're at it lets brag about who is more of a man than the other! Its not that hard to have a heated debate with NO PERSONAL INSULTS. Casual statement of facts, opinions, and personal experiences is enough without having to resort to petty name calling. Now, you want to know the saddest part of this whole thing? The saddest part is that you've got an 18 year old "kid" calling you on your childish behavior (that would be me). Several of you are a great deal older than me, yet you let this go on without trying to calm things down. I have no problems with anyone on this forum at this point AT ALL. WITH NO EXCEPTIONS. Now, if I have a problem with you as a person, it won't be because you feel that GReddy makes a better exhaust than Apex'i. It will be because there is something in your attitude that causes a conflict. I'm probably committing "Forum Suicide" in this too but I don't care. The people who will nod at this and say "yeah it got out of hand" are the people I'm trying to reach. Not the people who are going to yell at me because of this and that and the other thing too. I'm glad that atleast things are looking up and hey, while we're on the topic it was good that Bryan mentioned some of his technical credentials and people backed him up on that. When I get my 7 and finally reach the stage where a turbo upgrade is the thing to do, I'll definitely give you a lookup Bryan. Sounds like you do some quality work. However, maybe what he builds just isn't my taste. If thats the case it doesn't mean I have to go rag on him for a poor job. Just means I might differ in opinion. Now, I don't know if anyone is even going to care that I posted this but I couldn't log off withouth atleast putting in my two cents on the issue of forum attacks. Poweraxle said it and I agree. IT NEEDS TO STOP. WE ALL LOVE THE SAME CAR! So before anyone EVER flames again, take a damn step back and say to yourself "Do I really hate him? Or do I just disagree."

P.S. Sorry if that was REALLY redundant, I just had to release some frustration.

BoostedRotors

Blackdragon...where were you earlier??? lol. everything has been resolved and everyone have become friends again. aint life grand?

RETed

How about break out the drinks and let's get busy?



-Ted

BlackDragon

Sorry boosted, I was teaching my mom about network cabling and how to wire it all up otherwise I woulda come to the rescue sooner! Good to know that everyones friends again. Ted I'd buy the drinks if it were legal