jreynish

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hey what do you guy's think would be the benefits of front mounting two modified stock TII intercoolers. by modified i mean making them one. I also had another idea what do you think would hapen if you put a stock TII front mounted and then rerouted to go back to the top mounted intercooler then into the engine? these are just thaughts?

Any suggestions?

jreynish

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bump ^
common someone has to have some form of opinion on this! whether it would be of any benefit!

autocrash

As far as the two intercoolers joined and used as a front mount, this has been done and apparently works really well. (series 4/6 intercoolers are the most efficient stock intercoolers from typical japanese cars...)

Dunno about the two seperate intercooler thingy, I would think that would increase lag significantly (all that pipe) and increase restriction unnecessarily (again, all that pipe) as well, the top mount would have even more warm air flowing through it than before due to the added heat from the front mount...

autocrash

btw, my black car avatar looks better than yours!

Dave-ROR

Hmm.. I have two S4 top mounts.. was going to drop a spare conquest IC in the front for now until we get a NPR intercooler.

Perhaps I'll toy with this idea and see what happens.. :P

rotarygod

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Welding 2 cores together works great. Those are very good flowing intercoolers. The whole series thing has been done before but I don't think there will be much of an advantage to using the top mount due to heat soak reasons.

Dave-ROR

by welding are they removing the endtanks? or cutting them open and welding the end tanks? I was thinking series (so I didn't have to break out the welder) but both in the front.

autocrash

http://www.autospeed.com/A_0901/page1.html

autocrash

What I've seen done normally is to cut open one endtank on each and weld them together... less restrictive than passing through a pipe inbetween the two....

Dave-ROR

too much work. too bad that site doesn't list the conquest/starion IC. I'd be interested in it's test results.

autocrash

uhmm... from everything I've heard they perform worse than the DSM intercoolers and a helluva lot worse than a s4/s5 intercooler....

jreynish

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so if i got say an s5+s5 would that be twice as good as the stock supporting twice that of a stock turbo?

jreynish

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wow that is a good site!!! so a s4 and another s4 would be the way to go! wow! so do you know of anybody who knows of what kind of power increase this would do for me?

chris_stampe

i wanna see some pics of the 2 stock ic's mounted up front. I know someone on this forum has done this, would you mind posting some pics and telling roughly how you joined the two? Thanks,
Chris

jreynish

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I as well would like to know exactly what it might look like? and how you did it! Common someone has to have done this i can't be the first to think of it!

Dave-ROR

dunno, I know of 11 second conquests using the stock intercooler (albeit with misters). It's thick and seems to have good flow and cools VERY well. Like I said, I'd like to see results, until them, neither of us can say for sure.

Dave-ROR

from the posts above, they cut off part of the end tank and welded them together. Can't see any reason why this would not work.

jreynish

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Yes we know it would most likely work but how well? is the better question?

S2-13BT

A guy off the Ausrotary.com forum, MrGenius, recently did this himself. It's an excellent bang for your buck method. Not the prettiest IC in the world but it does the job.

jreynish

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so do you know what kind of flow it has? or what they weight is? or what the potential power increase may be? dimensions? these things i would like to know before buying another TII IC to weld to my own!

jreynish

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hey autocrash now my black car avatar is better than yours!

S2-13BT

The fella in question hasn't yet commented on how it performs. He is still making pipes up or something. When he gives results, I'll post them here.

This is a reasonably common upgrade in Australia, particularly with 1st gens, because it fits quite well in the front.

I couldn't say how much extra power you'd get, but I imagine the extra cooling ability of the 2 ICs would outway the slightly higher restriction you'd get.

I don't really know for sure though.

jreynish

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currious does anybody else have any ideas on this subject cause i am really really concidering doing it myself! anybody offer me and negatives? cons? any comment whatsoever? has anybody on here accually done it and know what the power gains are?

rotarygod

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I am so busy with manifold mods all the time that I haven't gotten around to it yet. I am planning on putting 2 of them together with custom end tanks. I would like to weld plates over them to convert them to air/water.

Negatives: uh...I dunno

Positives: Cheaper, should work just as good as many aftermarkets, custom work looks cool and commands more respect, did I mention its cheaper?

autocrash

Fine fine... but yours is lacking a certain ghetto quality that comes with being... uhmm... ghetto...