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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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twin tubro+6port+ECU

hey guys yea its me again. i've been curious would a set of 13Cs/T3s/or T-25s be big enough to run in a twinsetup on a 6port S5 motor with S4 internals. would a haltech E8 be enough ECU wise to run these. yes i know this is bad use of money and i can make a faster car by T2 swaping but let me put it this way. im not looking for fast and cheap. im looking for slow,epensive, and unique. also would it be possible to run a 13B-RE UIM on a 6port S5 LIM with a custom adaptor plate? thanks in advance guys. also if those turbos wont work please sugest some that may work.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Anything is possible with enough money. Why are you doing this?
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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twin gt25s from garret have been made before. try searching a bit and you might find a few links. if you want to REALLY have fun, build your own sequential kit with a gt25 and a 45r.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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twin gt25s from garret have been made before. try searching a bit and you might find a few links. if you want to REALLY have fun, build your own sequential kit with a gt25 and a 45r.
tthat would be fun.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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"T3" is a turbo frame size. Saying "T3" means nothing.

T-25 is very, very small. It's suited to a small displacement 4 cylinder or a V-twin motorcycle engine. Two of them would be restrictive on a 13B.

A 13C seems to be the stock turbo from a Dodge Minivan, according to my Googling. Too small and/or crappy to use on a rotary, even two of them.

You're asking some very basic questions, so I don't think you're up to the fab work this will require.

Yes, the E8 will run the setup. It's a programmable standalone ECU, so it will run nearly anything.

As for the RE intake, why? Are you talking about an NA lower intake? If so, just look at a picture of both of them. Putting a RE upper intake onto an NA lower puts the plenum of the RE intake somewhere inside the top of the engine. At the very least you'd need to make a spacer to move it up and then figure out where you will be putting your secondary injectors.

A lot of this stuff falls into the "if you have to ask...." category.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Twin TO4's have been done on a FD in a custom setup, maybe look into that turbo.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Saying "T4/TO4" is like saying "T3". Those are flange sizes, referring to a family of turbos.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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"T3" is a turbo frame size. Saying "T3" means nothing.

T-25 is very, very small. It's suited to a small displacement 4 cylinder or a V-twin motorcycle engine. Two of them would be restrictive on a 13B.

A 13C seems to be the stock turbo from a Dodge Minivan, according to my Googling. Too small and/or crappy to use on a rotary, even two of them.

You're asking some very basic questions, so I don't think you're up to the fab work this will require.

Yes, the E8 will run the setup. It's a programmable standalone ECU, so it will run nearly anything.

As for the RE intake, why? Are you talking about an NA lower intake? If so, just look at a picture of both of them. Putting a RE upper intake onto an NA lower puts the plenum of the RE intake somewhere inside the top of the engine. At the very least you'd need to make a spacer to move it up and then figure out where you will be putting your secondary injectors.

A lot of this stuff falls into the "if you have to ask...." category.
K so i need better turbos. i
'll be getting my old mans help on the fab work hes been a welder for 35+ years so he knows what hes doing there. good to know the E8 will work. and as for the RE ntake thanks again. i never could get god pics of them thats why i ask. from what i've seen they are sexy though.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Closest example I can point you to of a custom twin setup of other OEM turbo's is this:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=twin

Then he later makes the discovery that they're a little small (as mentioned in this thread, the above thread, and the dyno thread )

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=twin
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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Twin stock S4 turbos is a common one in AUS...
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Old Aug 16, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider
K so i need better turbos. i
'll be getting my old mans help on the fab work hes been a welder for 35+ years so he knows what hes doing there. good to know the E8 will work. and as for the RE ntake thanks again. i never could get god pics of them thats why i ask. from what i've seen they are sexy though.
Have you considered what the RE upper and 2nd gen lower combination will do to runner length tuning and required plenum volume?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Hmmmmm, I'll take that as a "no" yet he continues to ask it as seen here
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/possible-setup-will-work-781713/
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Why not do something simpler and cheaper?

I'm not a scientist, but twin entry turbos should spool pretty quick, less weight and plumbing headaches.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 03:11 AM
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i gave up as my user title states im still just dreaming here considering my options. i will probably go with a GT35R Sinlge tubro 6port
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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And you also said that you plan on using the GT35 on a stock TII ehaust manifold with an adapterplate made :nono_2: But where do YOU think the adapter should go. Between the engine and the manifold right?
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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I honestly think a GT35 (T3 tangential hotside) with a T3 adapter plate for the inlet flange would work, provided that there is enough clearance. But you would be choked by the small, short runners of the stock manifold, and you would need an external wastegate routed in with the stock manifold, or go with one of those internally wastegated GT30's. But at that point you might as well just get the BNR stage 2/3 and call it a day.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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I honestly think a GT35 (T3 tangential hotside) with a T3 adapter plate for the inlet flange would work, provided that there is enough clearance. But you would be choked by the small, short runners of the stock manifold, and you would need an external wastegate routed in with the stock manifold, or go with one of those internally wastegated GT30's. But at that point you might as well just get the BNR stage 2/3 and call it a day.
thank you very much. that right there was very useful.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
I honestly think a GT35 (T3 tangential hotside) with a T3 adapter plate for the inlet flange would work, provided that there is enough clearance. But you would be choked by the small, short runners of the stock manifold, and you would need an external wastegate routed in with the stock manifold, or go with one of those internally wastegated GT30's. But at that point you might as well just get the BNR stage 2/3 and call it a day.
Whether it can be made to fit or not is not my point. Just because you can fit 15lbs of **** into a 5lb bag, doesn't make it a good idea.

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thank you very much. that right there was very useful.
Usefull? Seriously guy, here is what you are going to end up with, a 6-port with an adapter on it which you'll need to notch at least the frame rail to make an old, ineffeicent designed, low max hp manifold fit. Then you are going to need another adapter to fit a really good turbo with an undersized footprint creating more backpressure than you want. It probably will require notching the shock tower as well. Then you still need all custom intercooler piping and exhaust. You think you can handle all this?




I'm asking a serious question.




Thank all that is holly that we don't live in a bolt-on world. At least I don't live in a bolt on world. My world is filled with quality and one off parts that keep all hondah guys out and most kids. They look in from time to time to see what they're missing. It's like a retarded, diseased, orphan looking into a multi-million dollar mansion on christmas morning. All the kids are opening boxes of puppies and sleighs and whatever the duece the kids want nowadays, and the best the orphan can get his hands on is whatever he can pull from his unwashed skivies.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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my post was in a round-about way saying that a GT35R is possible (because anything is possible), but you shouldn't bother, much like most of the "unique" ideas presented
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Some well thought out unique ideas I have seen on this forum are worth a second look, a chance and some help. What this kid has proposed time and time again is just ............... whatever. Like I said in one of his other threads. He lacks the, what I consider to be, general automotive knowledge not to mention rotary knowledge to even begin to realize how far out there and ridiculous these ideas really are. If he read and learned more I'm sure he would see it. Instead we keep getting these threads about things that, while possible becuase everything is possible with enough time and money, they just aren't realistic.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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OK, enough.

What is being said is valid, but it's turning into a bashing session.

This member is constantly being attacked. Stop it now.

Criticism is fine, but this is starting to become harassment.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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True enough, the OP will find out well on his own that unique ideas are always difficult, that's why most (all?) people don't do them.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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so wait have you even tried to turbo your 6 port with a stock turbo? or have you tried anything from your other threads? im just curious...
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