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Old 07-08-03, 06:59 AM
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turbo timer and alarm

i was just wondering if anybody has any links on how to make it so i can still turn on my alarm when the turbo timer is running? thanks


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Old 07-08-03, 08:37 AM
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i've thought about this problem and i can't see a way around it. i have an aftermarket alarm with an immobiliser and it will not work at all with the engine running. i think in most alarms the arming circuit only becomes live when the engine is off.
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On my alarm (rattler) I have a feature called passive arming where the alarm is armed 10 seconds after the ignition is turned off (I still have to push the button, it's not automatic, but i don't have to sit around and wait for my car to turn off). You might want to see if your alarm has a similar feature.

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Old 07-08-03, 07:28 PM
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i have the stock alarm system
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If it's any help, I believe that there are a few companies that offer alarms with built in turbo timers. I do not however know exactly which companies offer these alarms, but I know that they are out there.
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Compustar is one companys that offers a built in turbo timer, another way you might be able to get around this is by hooking up a relay to bypass the alarm until the turbo timer is off, i not sure how to do this my self, but this is how some stereo shops are doing it.
Old 07-09-03, 06:21 AM
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Turbo timers are only required if you're too lazy to drive a turbo properly. With water-cooled turbos all that's needed is to drive using light-medium load only (i.e. minimal if any boost) for the last lime or so. That will bring the turbos core temp down to safe levels and allow you to shut off without waiting.
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If anyone has a simple method on how to get the stock alarm system to work with a turbo timer please help us out.

Also I disagree. A after about a year and a half, I had to replace my turbo because the seals were going bad, I always just drove my car very lightly until I got to my destination and let it sit about 15 seconds after I stopped. The water temp reported is going to be much lower than the the temperature at the turbo exhaust housing if you just finished driving and haven't been idling for a bit. It's cheap insurance against ruining your seals and having to do all that work. Plus you don't have to wait around, unless you want to arm the stock alarm, which brings me back to the purpose of this post...
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whats wrong with just locking the car and leaving? until you get an aftermarket alarm anyway
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Originally Posted by stylEmon
whats wrong with just locking the car and leaving? until you get an aftermarket alarm anyway
Some people want their alarms to work.
Old 03-12-07, 03:29 PM
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oh, i see...
the alarm that allows someone to break your window, take what ever they want with in arms reach, pop your hood latch and clean out you eng bay, and still doesnt go off...
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Well, yeah I would like the stock theft deterrent system to work regardless of its quality.

Here's what I'm thinking. find the wire that goes to the alarm to signify that the ignition is on/off. Relay this wire through the parking brake.

Wire so that when the parking brake is on, the alarm computer thinks the ignition is off. then when I set the alarm even with the turbo timer running it will think the ignition is off and successfully set the alarm.

When the parking brake is off, the relay is closed and the alarm computer can see functions normally.

So it works the same when the parking brake is off and when pulled up bypasses the alarm computer so that the alarm will be set while the turbo timer is running, and this won't allow the alarm computer to see that the ignition is running.

Any input?
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Turbo timers are only required if you're too lazy to drive a turbo properly. With water-cooled turbos all that's needed is to drive using light-medium load only (i.e. minimal if any boost) for the last lime or so. That will bring the turbos core temp down to safe levels and allow you to shut off without waiting.
Agreed.
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My after market alarm has a programmable turbo timer feature. I didn't even have to disable my factory alarm.
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Originally Posted by kleetuz
A after about a year and a half, I had to replace my turbo because the seals were going bad, I always just drove my car very lightly until I got to my destination and let it sit about 15 seconds after I stopped.
And you blame that on not having a turbo timer? You can believe the turbo timer marketers if you want (it's your money), but my turbo has lasted over 110,000 miles without one being used and isn't showing any obvious signs of age. Thousands of other turbos have lasted similarly. Just like with BOV's, the only people telling you that you need them are the people selling them.

It's cheap insurance against ruining your seals and having to do all that work.
In normal street driving a water-cooled turbo simply doesn't get hot enough to damage the seals or any other parts on shut-down. If they did, all turbo cars would come with an extended idle feature from the factory, nicely integrated with the stock alarm.
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What would you blame it on?
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the only people telling you that you need them are the people selling them.
Lol, tru with 75% of products.

although, i have both tt and bov..
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