spot_skater

Engine's been in, is mostly put together. After being at school for a few months (got back a few days ago) I decided to go outside.

I put a J-spec S5 TII motor into my S4 NA chassis, the Turbo throttle cable is in, but the throttle body seems a little weird. I know there's a cruise control cable and linkage and all that, which I won't be using, so I know I'm going to be using the linkage closest to the firewall, but the part of the linkage the cable is supposed to sit in is bent upwards. Would there be a problem if I just bent it back to keep the cable in?

Also, when I move the linkage on the backside of the TB, closest to the firewall, it feels like it's not even moving the butterflies inside the TB, as compared to moving it from where the TPS contacts it. What's the deal with this?

Basically it seems like if I were to connect the throttle cable to where I should, the butterflies inside the throttle body won't be opening.

It seems like things are backwards. I mean, I know this is off a RHD car, so am I going to need an A-Spec Turbo throttle body? I'm confused here...

Any ideas, or some information would be great, guys. And I did a search and read through the archives for the last 15 mins or so and didn't turn up what I was looking for.

Thanks.

James

spot_skater

No one's ran into this and can give me any feedback?

Spectator

iTrader: (1)

The cable goes around the engine and comes back on the TB from the passenger side of your car.

Hope that helps. If anyone has a pic, post it.

Jpk3200

Done. Notice it wraps around from driver's side to passenger's side as F.C.3S described.

spot_skater

Thanks for the responses guys, but that doesn't help me.

I knew that much already. It's dark out now, but tomorrow I'll snap a picture.

Hopefully in the mean time someone else can throw out some info.

James

spot_skater

Looking at the pics, if I take my hand and push up on the linkage, towards the dr side, that's about as far as it goes, and that's the rotation of it.

Is that right? Am I just being retarded and missing something stupidly easy?

Thanks,
James

NZConvertible

The thrttle cable connection is the same on J-spec engines as US ones. Theres only one place and one way to connect it, so your comments about it not "feeling" right don't make a whole lot of sense. When you turn the quadrant, you can clearly see both the primary then secondary throttle shafts turning.

spot_skater

How is it supposed to be connected? The linkage on mine looks like it's been bent and fucked with, and I'm confused.

It goes over then back under, correct? I feel retarded asking such a simple question, but it needs to be done. A buddy of mine was over a while back and he was a bit confused, too.

James

NZConvertible

Can you take a closer photo?

Correct.

AC LINKS

You have a short cable on the n/a. The best thing to do is call Mazda and buy the turbo s5 cable for $41. Looks to me that you are missing a part that the cable hooks on to. Heres a pic of what I mean:

spot_skater

I have the TII throttle cable. I'll take a closer pic tomorrow when I'm not intoxiacted, and with the TB off the car, and on the car.

James

Thanks guys

Funkspectrum

iTrader: (5)

It'll work...just route the cable as it should be and you're good.

I have to replace the throttle cable on my Jspec tomorrow... the old one was kinked and started to fray inside, sticking my throttle at certain ranges (half throttle to WOT).

dsmrx7

"Also, when I move the linkage on the backside of the TB, closest to the firewall, it feels like it's not even moving the butterflies inside the TB, as compared to moving it from where the TPS contacts it. What's the deal with this? "

Maybe the throttle body is just a little seized from sitting (similar problem on my J-Spec)?

spot_skater

Here's some pics. Notice the bend/twisted pieces.

classicauto

iTrader: (3)

TIf you grab the main linkage and rotate it as if you were pressing the throttle....does the linkage slide along the shaft until its proper position before the throttle plates open? Or does rotating the linkage move the plates immediately?

If the plates move immediatley when rotating the linkage I would say someone has reassembled it with the main wrong......which is tough to do because of the shape of the throttle shaft.

spot_skater

If I rotate it from where the linkage where the Throttle Cable wraps around and snaps in, it rotates on the shaft, and none of the plates move. Then it hits a piece of metal where the springs (one spring is actually LOOSE around it) connect to, and it can't rotate any more, and the throttle plates can't open.

If rotated from the other side of the throttle body, where the TPS comes in contact with it, the throttle plates open and the linkage moves, as well.

If you want more pics I have it sitting in front of me.

Thanks classicauto,
James

classicauto

iTrader: (3)

By the sounds of it, one of the stops has been bent/trimmed.

Ahh I see.....

Here'sone of your pics back:

The red circle is the main stop. The main linkage should rest (with the throttle fully shut) against this stop. Basically it should match the cruise control linkage in the way it rests against the stop.

The blue circle is where your stop appears to be screwed. That should be a sharp90* angle. I think what happened is the end of the stop closest to the main linkage has been pushed "in" (toward the throttle plates) and mashed that 90* bend enough to allow the main linkage to rotate beyond where the stop would stop it.

Straighten the little "mash" out by pulling backwards (away from the trottle plates) on the stop, and then you should have enough meat on it to grab the main linkage.

Voila

spot_skater

Thanks for the help classic. A buddy came by and took a look at it with me, and we basically agreed that someone took it apart and didn't put it back together correctly.

**** is bent, the linkage is fucked up, and the springs are all loose and **** on the shaft. I'm just going to look for a new one and save myself some hassle.

James