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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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Turbo Kits Do Exist- HAVE YOU TRIED IT?

Everybody says there is no turbo kit to make your N/A turbo. I disagree. look at this http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=220&1=313&3=471
that does not say Upgrade for Turbo Only. Has anybody every tried installing one of those on an N/A or even a turbo. Has anybody bought this kit for their TII? I've seen the honda kit at the performance shop and it has everything including fuel injectors of course because it is not stock turbo, but perhaps they make the 7's kit just as extensive.

So anybody have any information from personal experience or greddy that says this kit will not turbo your n/a?
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more than likely that's an upgrade kit for an (already turbo) T2


Company's have been pretty hard pressed to produce a turbo kit that will hold up on an N/a. the compression is higher, so you can't run high boost levels.. n/a tranny's wont hold up to turbo power.

and i DOUBT that kit just BOLTS up. there would have to be some fabrication work done..

computer..injectors..FMIC.. just ask Mr. Cake. he's pretty much got a running turbo n/a. took him a while. but it runs.

he admit's it was a pain, and it would be easier/cheaper to buy a turbo car as a base to start the project

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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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all i hear is blah blah blah. have you seen a greddy turbo kit. it comes with things to take care of the computer. and you don't have to have an intercooler. they also make a kit for integra GSR's, with have something like 10.x:1 compression. that's higher than my n/a. i've read aaron's site. you are not taking this into consideration, just regurgitating the same old crap. and yes, any greddy kit should just BOLT RIGHT UP.
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Yep, its just an upgrade. It is a full turbo replacement, but you still need a turbo car.
You could put it on your N/A, but you'd need an intercooler, fuel managment -bigger injectors, and a computer.
Imagine running a td06 on a stock N/A! The engine would last an hour!

Plus, that's a ton of money for something you'd have to really tone down in order to keep safe! Might as well just get used, stock pieces if you want to turbo your NA.
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Originally posted by theonlygreat
all i hear is blah blah blah.
not even sure what you were asking, but you asked and, you get a response..

they also make a kit for integra GSR's, with have something like 10.x:1 compression. that's higher than my n/a.
oh really? right on man. i think your forgetting that integras have piston engines. you can run more boost on higher compression with different rods, valves, etc..

piston engines w/ turbo have been around for DECADES... turbo rotary engines have not.

Aaron Cake has done this himself. speak with him

and if the n/a -> turbo kit is strictly bolt on, tell me: where is the exhaust manifold in that picture?

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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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If your thinking that much money just get an atkins sc setup, about the same price for the 5 inch and a carb
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by theonlygreat
all i hear is blah blah blah. have you seen a greddy turbo kit. it comes with things to take care of the computer. and you don't have to have an intercooler. they also make a kit for integra GSR's, with have something like 10.x:1 compression. that's higher than my n/a. i've read aaron's site. you are not taking this into consideration, just regurgitating the same old crap. and yes, any greddy kit should just BOLT RIGHT UP.
Blah blah blah? You should read his comments closer.

You won't be able to crank up the boost as much because of the higher compression rotors and good luck with the NA tranny. NA trannies are notoriously weak and you'll definitely need a TII tranny if you are running higher boost levels.
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wow he sure is a smart member.

onlygreat, why don't you buy it, and tell us how it is, mmk?
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bambam7 have you seen the kit? is it in your hands? is there somewhere that you found a description of it's contents? if not then you know not what you are talking about. those kits come with bigger injectors and something to manage the fuel.

anybody have any real insight on this kit. that is not just their opinion?
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Originally posted by theonlygreat

anybody have any real insight on this kit. that is not just their opinion?
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Yep, its just an upgrade. It is a full turbo replacement, but you still need a turbo car.
You could put it on your N/A, but you'd need an intercooler, fuel managment -bigger injectors, and a computer.
Imagine running a td06 on a stock N/A! The engine would last an hour!


thats not opinion: thats fact!!!!
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if i wanted a supercharger i'd be looking at supercharger kits, thanks for the response. the NA tranny is fine, i'll worry about that part. i didn't ask about the tranny, i didn't ask about the amount of boost. i didn't ask if it was worth the price tag.

what i want to know is whether it is made to work on an NA or a TII or both?
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The Greddy TD06 kit for the FC is for a TII. It does not include anything for fuel management. It does however include a manifold. The kit is not made to clearance the NA intake manifold or any other previsions for the NA. You COULD put this on an NA, but it would probably take some tinkering, and if you got it physically bolted on you would still need to address fueling, ignition and intercooling issues. Turbo cars making less than 200whp or running alcohol don't require intercoolers, but most do.

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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Re: Turbo Kits Do Exist- HAVE YOU TRIED IT?

Originally posted by theonlygreat
So anybody have any information from personal experience or greddy that says this kit will not turbo your n/a?
Hmmm... so I can buy a turbo kit for my n/a (minus fuel, intercooler, ECU, etc) and likely mess everything up... or I can buy a TurboII for about the same amount... Personally, I'd rather have the second RX-7 and keep my n/a in decent condition. ^_^

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i just dont understand why anyone would ask a question about anything, get a response (which they may or may not agree with) and then say "well you dont know what your talking about."
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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i will say anybody who doesn't give me a resource for their information does not know what they are talking about. so where are the resources???
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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where are YOUR resources? you gave us a link that showed us nothing, the only factoid on the page is "89-92 upgrade kit".

and your telling everyone they dont know what theyre talking about and it comes with bigger injectors, a fuel computer, etc etc?

where are YOUR resources?!
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Order up then turbo, its your $3500. Just a word to the wise, you are wrong on this one. My source is myself, and obviously I have a little more expierience with this stuff than you.

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Like others have said, Its an upgrade for a TII. When I had my N/A I called Greddy and asked them myself.
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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thank your 1FastT2. you have come up with a resource a reliable one even. i am satisfied now. and my resource was personal experience with other greddy kits.
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I think that you should get an exhaust that is not rusted out first..... Then after you have corrected that problem then it would be worth your while to sell teh rims you have on the car and buy some common sense.

After all that is done you might want to do some research and instead of asking us if this WILL work.....instead tell us that it SHOULD work in this manner and we can tell you that you are full of **** or you might be on to something.

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Originally posted by theonlygreat
i will say anybody who doesn't give me a resource for their information does not know what they are talking about. so where are the resources???
Before you start your useless bullshit rambling, maybe you should CALL greddy. First, the kit does NOT include injectors or any ECU, you also lack an intercooler, and if you're stupid enough to run it without an intercooler then you deserve what you get. It's DEFINATLY not bolt on, they'd have to supply you with a front cover for the oil return, which they don't. Give them a call, or hell, even check out their website....
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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thanks for nothin capn' wankel. i've read more than most people on this site instead of posting everything. there was no answer to this question. now there is. and my rusty mufflers will be fixed when i want. as of right now they are not a problem because they are not hurting anything. my auxilary ports are also now working... just hadn't updated my sig.
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Capn' Wankel
I think that you should get an exhaust that is not rusted out first..... Then after you have corrected that problem then it would be worth your while to sell teh rims you have on the car and buy some common sense.
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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now there is.
the answer was there from the beginning.. you didnt want to listen.
Old Jun 4, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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whoa, read the full thread. 1FastT2 answered the question now it's done with. i fully understand reliability problems, of which i did not care. all i wanted was an answer to the question. reliability is my problem.



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