TT FCs???
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TT FCs???
hey guys, just wondering how many have TTed there FC's aside form doing a swap to a pre TTed motor
i am in the process of building a TT "kit" for my FC. it will consist of 2 14b turbos, custom manifold, 1850cc secondary injectors(720cc's will be going to primary), Fuel Cell, aeromotive fuel pump(the big one, forgot flow rate off hand), eManage or FCon for tuning...........maybe a haltech, but well see..............ACT street strip clutch with HD pressure plate and light weight flywheel, custom intercooler, im thinking 2 2.5"inlets, and one 4: outlet! custom throttle body elbow, and custom exhaust............not sure if i want to go with full exhaust or have streight pipes coming out the side............also not sure if i want to merge the 2 into one and split again, or merge into one and go out one side............decisions desisions...........lol
but anyway, does anyone think i am leaving anything out?? im thinking transmission work would be a good idea if i want to run from a dig, but most of my racing will be highway!
also, i will be using my current mods still where aplicable!
and please, if ur a hater dont post, i just want helpfull insite!! i will probably still use this car for drifting and turning, thats y i chose the 14bs. they are at full spool on VR4s at around 3k rpm which should be about the same for us too, and with the 14bs i can run really low boost (well lower lol thinkin around 12-15psi) and also high boost (between 30-32pai......i believe there efficiant to around 16-17psi each............) with this set up ill get the responce i need for the twisties, and the power i need for the streight line! chicken.gif
so....as i always say.......INPUT PLEASE!!!
i am in the process of building a TT "kit" for my FC. it will consist of 2 14b turbos, custom manifold, 1850cc secondary injectors(720cc's will be going to primary), Fuel Cell, aeromotive fuel pump(the big one, forgot flow rate off hand), eManage or FCon for tuning...........maybe a haltech, but well see..............ACT street strip clutch with HD pressure plate and light weight flywheel, custom intercooler, im thinking 2 2.5"inlets, and one 4: outlet! custom throttle body elbow, and custom exhaust............not sure if i want to go with full exhaust or have streight pipes coming out the side............also not sure if i want to merge the 2 into one and split again, or merge into one and go out one side............decisions desisions...........lol
but anyway, does anyone think i am leaving anything out?? im thinking transmission work would be a good idea if i want to run from a dig, but most of my racing will be highway!
also, i will be using my current mods still where aplicable!
and please, if ur a hater dont post, i just want helpfull insite!! i will probably still use this car for drifting and turning, thats y i chose the 14bs. they are at full spool on VR4s at around 3k rpm which should be about the same for us too, and with the 14bs i can run really low boost (well lower lol thinkin around 12-15psi) and also high boost (between 30-32pai......i believe there efficiant to around 16-17psi each............) with this set up ill get the responce i need for the twisties, and the power i need for the streight line! chicken.gif
so....as i always say.......INPUT PLEASE!!!
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erm, fcon or emanage? thats funny, you won't be able to use the stock ecu for soemthing as wild as you want, not to mention its only good for up to 14psi w/ stock boost sensor.
whos building your motor for 30psi?
and do you have a tuner yet.
there are several jap fcs i have seen w/ twin turbos but no US spec besides stock twins from RE or REW motors.
saw one running twin HT18's (stock fc turbo) and one running twin TD05's
then there are some big *** bb turbos, which is really what you should be using, a ballbearing turbo if you're bothering for twins.
whos building your motor for 30psi?
and do you have a tuner yet.
there are several jap fcs i have seen w/ twin turbos but no US spec besides stock twins from RE or REW motors.
saw one running twin HT18's (stock fc turbo) and one running twin TD05's
then there are some big *** bb turbos, which is really what you should be using, a ballbearing turbo if you're bothering for twins.
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well, on a VR4 (my buddy is gunna be runnign 2 14bs) they put u into the 11s and are at full spool around 3500 rpm! thats why i chose them.
i dont think there will be that big of a problem using an eManage or FCON sence i already have the rtek chip which alters teh ECU for bigger injectors already and allows it to advance timing past the 12psi or what ever it is stock. i am also thinking about getting a haltec or something standalone, but i think i can make it with out.
i will most likely go to sound performance and see what they can do for me as far as tuning goes, or ill have to find somewhere that knows a thing or 2 about rotarys. hell, if i might even do it myself sence i am working twards opening a shop of my own! just have to get to a dyno.
the budget isnt that large, i am juggling between this and my 240sx so this will take a while. im probably gunna get the turbos manifold and a couple other things and throw the turbos on this up coming winter and then leave it at around 15psi or so until i can acumilate the rest of the parts and possibly a new motor before i go 30. im sure tuning it myself ill either pop the motor, or deteriorate (i cant spell) its lifespan a bit sence it will be my first time tuning a car. but id rather do it to my own car than open a shop and do it to a customers lol
anyway, i think i answered all ur questions, and thanx for the luck, although i get a feeling u were sarcastic
i dont think there will be that big of a problem using an eManage or FCON sence i already have the rtek chip which alters teh ECU for bigger injectors already and allows it to advance timing past the 12psi or what ever it is stock. i am also thinking about getting a haltec or something standalone, but i think i can make it with out.
i will most likely go to sound performance and see what they can do for me as far as tuning goes, or ill have to find somewhere that knows a thing or 2 about rotarys. hell, if i might even do it myself sence i am working twards opening a shop of my own! just have to get to a dyno.
the budget isnt that large, i am juggling between this and my 240sx so this will take a while. im probably gunna get the turbos manifold and a couple other things and throw the turbos on this up coming winter and then leave it at around 15psi or so until i can acumilate the rest of the parts and possibly a new motor before i go 30. im sure tuning it myself ill either pop the motor, or deteriorate (i cant spell) its lifespan a bit sence it will be my first time tuning a car. but id rather do it to my own car than open a shop and do it to a customers lol
anyway, i think i answered all ur questions, and thanx for the luck, although i get a feeling u were sarcastic
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Originally Posted by Ricer240sx
(between 30-32pai......i believe there efficiant to around 16-17psi each...........)
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yeah too bad i finisned jr high and high school and am now in secondary schooling. and i have 4 cars btw!
also i dont see how 16 +16 doesnt equal 32 psi. but i do know that between the 2 of them there capable of pushing 30psi, as i have riddin in a VR4 with this set up pushing 30psi!
just because my name says ricer doesnt mean im retarded! actualy i am the exact opposite of a ricer! all my cars have stock bodys exept the FC, that i cut up the front bumper as i was supposed to have a Front mount and i was worried about air flow to the radiator so i cut out teh trim between the signals, but sence i got fucked over on that i jsut have another opening in the bumper doing nothing but adding more airflow! i dont plan on getting abody kit for the TII untill i can afford to import a Sexy Style kit. so it that is rice then im guilty as charged!
all i asked for was imput( i guess i should have specified technical input as opposted to opinionated input) on my set up, noticed how i said haters dont reply..............yeah, that means all u retards not contrabuting to the topic but instead whoreing so u can look cool with one more post count to ur name
also i dont see how 16 +16 doesnt equal 32 psi. but i do know that between the 2 of them there capable of pushing 30psi, as i have riddin in a VR4 with this set up pushing 30psi!
just because my name says ricer doesnt mean im retarded! actualy i am the exact opposite of a ricer! all my cars have stock bodys exept the FC, that i cut up the front bumper as i was supposed to have a Front mount and i was worried about air flow to the radiator so i cut out teh trim between the signals, but sence i got fucked over on that i jsut have another opening in the bumper doing nothing but adding more airflow! i dont plan on getting abody kit for the TII untill i can afford to import a Sexy Style kit. so it that is rice then im guilty as charged!
all i asked for was imput( i guess i should have specified technical input as opposted to opinionated input) on my set up, noticed how i said haters dont reply..............yeah, that means all u retards not contrabuting to the topic but instead whoreing so u can look cool with one more post count to ur name
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ok i'm sorry but my friend has a 98 eclipse with a 14b on it and the turbo is not profecient enough at the high rpms a rotary is gonna throw on'em they hold power to about 6 grand and after that it's gone. and to me personally twin turbo is just dumb imho, get a motor built right and then throw on a nice single turbo it's alot easier to work on and less clutter. but it's not my car or money so you do whatever u want just don't look around at everybody else when she blows
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Why would all the FD guys be switching to a single setup if a dual is so great?
Get a big single with a huge port and call it a day.
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Get a big single with a huge port and call it a day.
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I say give it a shot and let us know how it works. Not many have tried this setup to help with results. Most just slap on a full t04 single and be done with it. But I do disagree that you will run this setup with some piece of **** rteck chip and a stock ecu. You will probably want to run a 550-1680 fuel injector combo and you will need a standalone for that. Best advise is get the standalone that the shop in your area tunes and installs. This will help you trust me.
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Originally Posted by rx7lover0147
ok i'm sorry but my friend has a 98 eclipse with a 14b on it and the turbo is not profecient enough at the high rpms a rotary is gonna throw on'em they hold power to about 6 grand and after that it's gone. and to me personally twin turbo is just dumb imho, get a motor built right and then throw on a nice single turbo it's alot easier to work on and less clutter. but it's not my car or money so you do whatever u want just don't look around at everybody else when she blows
and im not going single casue then theres lag, and idk if any of u know this but lag is BAD for drifting and Auto-x which i will be using this car for everyonce in a while, and i cant stay away from the twisties on the roads either so want the quick responce form twins!
and FDs always go single cause over all u can get more power form them and there not worried about responce, but i am! see theres more to driving than goin in a streight line. it gets boring after a while which is y i want to build a car that can go fast, but also has good responce so i can take it to more than just the drag stip and have a nice broad power band that is emphisised (yeah, did i mention i cant spell?) in the mid range.
i will be running 720cc primarys and 1800cc secondarys so i should be good for fuel!
and i am looking into stand alones! its just i didnt want to have to wait that long to save up for one lol. i ahve always been looking into stand alones but i wanted to see if i could make it work with the eManage or F-CON
lol thanx for the motivation! i guess i am good at being a clown so if it does turn into a funny thread to laugh at, its ok by me. but i am determined to do this so hopefully i will have the privlage of saying my thread was archived!
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Originally Posted by Ricer240sx
yeah, i was discusing how long they'd hold out with some buddies and it was uncertin how long they would last on a rotary, but im willing to try!! lol
and im not going single casue then theres lag, and idk if any of u know this but lag is BAD for drifting and Auto-x which i will be using this car for everyonce in a while, and i cant stay away from the twisties on the roads either so want the quick responce form twins!
and FDs always go single cause over all u can get more power form them and there not worried about responce, but i am! see theres more to driving than goin in a streight line. it gets boring after a while which is y i want to build a car that can go fast, but also has good responce so i can take it to more than just the drag stip and have a nice broad power band that is emphisised (yeah, did i mention i cant spell?) in the mid range.
i will be running 720cc primarys and 1800cc secondarys so i should be good for fuel!
and i am looking into stand alones! its just i didnt want to have to wait that long to save up for one lol. i ahve always been looking into stand alones but i wanted to see if i could make it work with the eManage or F-CON
lol thanx for the motivation! i guess i am good at being a clown so if it does turn into a funny thread to laugh at, its ok by me. but i am determined to do this so hopefully i will have the privlage of saying my thread was archived!
and im not going single casue then theres lag, and idk if any of u know this but lag is BAD for drifting and Auto-x which i will be using this car for everyonce in a while, and i cant stay away from the twisties on the roads either so want the quick responce form twins!
and FDs always go single cause over all u can get more power form them and there not worried about responce, but i am! see theres more to driving than goin in a streight line. it gets boring after a while which is y i want to build a car that can go fast, but also has good responce so i can take it to more than just the drag stip and have a nice broad power band that is emphisised (yeah, did i mention i cant spell?) in the mid range.
i will be running 720cc primarys and 1800cc secondarys so i should be good for fuel!
and i am looking into stand alones! its just i didnt want to have to wait that long to save up for one lol. i ahve always been looking into stand alones but i wanted to see if i could make it work with the eManage or F-CON
lol thanx for the motivation! i guess i am good at being a clown so if it does turn into a funny thread to laugh at, its ok by me. but i am determined to do this so hopefully i will have the privlage of saying my thread was archived!
Good luck!
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I am most apologetic. I was unconscious to the fact that I needed to use correct grammar on an internet message board. I will strive to make sure my posts are grammatically sound in the future. :p
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You "double" the CFM rating on the turbos, not the boost pressure when you run twins. So as stated before, 16psi + 16psi doesn't = 32psi.
Don't get on the guy about his grammar, who the **** cares. This is an rx7 forum, not an english forum. As long as I know what he's talking about and his posts aren't dificult to read, his grammar is fine with me.
Ricer240sx, read some literature on turbos. Pick up Corky Bell's book "Maximum Boost", you will learn everything you need to know and then some.
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Don't get on the guy about his grammar, who the **** cares. This is an rx7 forum, not an english forum. As long as I know what he's talking about and his posts aren't dificult to read, his grammar is fine with me.
Ricer240sx, read some literature on turbos. Pick up Corky Bell's book "Maximum Boost", you will learn everything you need to know and then some.
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