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01-23-04, 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Rotorlution
There are little details about the apexi that I really like. For example, has the ground cable at the rear of the bumper (like stock) It has silencers if needed to quiet down the car for daily driving.
There are little details about the apexi that I really like. For example, has the ground cable at the rear of the bumper (like stock) It has silencers if needed to quiet down the car for daily driving.
. hehe- Dana "Vanilla......rice rice baby"
01-23-04, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Rotorlution
No ****!
Listen all you perspective true dual exhaust buyers. Mazdatrix sells the true duals for 1,250.00!!! Thats a **** load of money for a mild steel setup. Im biased but take a look ...
http://www.jic-magic.com/productsjic_bullet_twin.htm
This is a nice stainless exhaust with a deep tone. Its 1,180.00 for the catback but im sure you could find it cheaper.
Then you have the Greddy PE...
http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/2catalo...at=11&part=130
Ive also heard this tone, a little louder then the JIC and not quite as deep. Its 898.00
Then you have the Apexi duals...
http://www.rx7.com/pics/fc-apex-dn1.jpg
This is probably the loudest of the 3 but you can buy it for $719.00
There are little details about the apexi that I really like. For example, has the ground cable at the rear of the bumper (like stock) It has silencers if needed to quiet down the car for daily driving. I realize that for 1,250.00 you get the header and presilencer but there are other alternatives out there. You could make a test pipe for practically nothing.
No ****!
Listen all you perspective true dual exhaust buyers. Mazdatrix sells the true duals for 1,250.00!!! Thats a **** load of money for a mild steel setup. Im biased but take a look ...
http://www.jic-magic.com/productsjic_bullet_twin.htm
This is a nice stainless exhaust with a deep tone. Its 1,180.00 for the catback but im sure you could find it cheaper.
Then you have the Greddy PE...
http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/2catalo...at=11&part=130
Ive also heard this tone, a little louder then the JIC and not quite as deep. Its 898.00
Then you have the Apexi duals...
http://www.rx7.com/pics/fc-apex-dn1.jpg
This is probably the loudest of the 3 but you can buy it for $719.00
There are little details about the apexi that I really like. For example, has the ground cable at the rear of the bumper (like stock) It has silencers if needed to quiet down the car for daily driving. I realize that for 1,250.00 you get the header and presilencer but there are other alternatives out there. You could make a test pipe for practically nothing.
WIth a "test" pipe you now loose aux port actuation or have to rig it up some other way for the majority of cars on the road. If you didn't know S4's dominate the road in numbers. There goes power or extra money. Not to mention this would all be louder with a test pipe. I have run FC's with: Header, header/pre-silencer, header/twin silencers, header/silencer magnaflow cans, header/twins and connecting pipes, and the whole true duals. The collected one resonates really bad. I recently found out that the Magnaflow cans used in my friends GXL cost him 200 bucks each and they are raspier than hell.
So much for quality/costAnd your comparing rice cans with cuality canisters and cat-backs with a FULL racing exhaust.
cat-backs won't net you much hp compared to a full exhaust.
01-23-04, 03:50 PM
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Im sorry but Id take a greddy, JIC, or apexi canister over a cheap *** RB any day of the week. They are not even manufactured by SRS anymore.
Of course a full exhaust will net you more power!!! I was only showing nice quality catbacks.
Of course a full exhaust will net you more power!!! I was only showing nice quality catbacks.
01-23-04, 03:52 PM
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I wouldn't call SS/ceramic packed stragith through SS canisters cheap. And I would call an APEXi canister a rice can. But since your comming from a TII anything is quiet. Hell I don't even needear plugs with my TII and open down pipe. geez.
01-23-04, 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary Racer
Here we go again the great N/A exhaust debate. Between Kevin and I we have almost had or driven all the major possibilities of exhaust systems. Here is my analysis
1 - Stock manifold, Bonez down pipe pre-silencer, HKS 50mm cat back. Good down low and midrange power. Medium weight combination (only because of the manifold). Good exhaust note little to quiet for my taste, super loud shot gun back fires!!
2 - Stock manifold, Racing beat down pipe-pre silencer, HKS 50mm cat back. Good midrange and top end power (but still not 100% up near redline). Heaver combo than the one above but not by much. Louder/raspier exhaust note, sharp crisp back fires.
3 - Stock manifold, Bonez down pipe pre-silencer, Racing Beat cat back. Just about the same as the first one except the exhaust note is louder and the Racing Beat is heaver than the HKS.
4 - Stock manifold, Racing Beat down pipe pre-silencer, Racing Beat cat back. Good midrange and top end power. Heaviest set up out of the 3 set ups above. Good rotary sound, poppy deep back fire sound.
5 - Racing Beat streetable header, Racing Beat pre-silencer, Racing Beat cat back. Good all around performance. Lightest system so far due to the removal of the cast exhaust manifold. Good “loud” rotary sound but back fires are now gone
6 - True Dual system w/Racing Beat components. Insane upper midrange and top end power but bottom end and off the line power suffers (I would suggest to any one that gets this system if they have there 6th ports tied open to fix what ever is wrong and make sure they work cause you will suffer even more lower end power loss). Heaviest system out of the bunch but damn does the under side of you car look BLING BLING. The best exhaust note out of the lot of them. Deep clean idle with small blurbles resonating from each rotor, that signature weed whacker on crack sound up top!!
I LOVE the tue duals, but it is expensive a little louder, and a bit on the heavy side. If you don’t have that much cash and want to keep your car on the light side I think system #5 is your best all around performer.
- Dana “Damn, Team GTUs goes through a lot of exhaust systems!!”
Here we go again the great N/A exhaust debate. Between Kevin and I we have almost had or driven all the major possibilities of exhaust systems. Here is my analysis
1 - Stock manifold, Bonez down pipe pre-silencer, HKS 50mm cat back. Good down low and midrange power. Medium weight combination (only because of the manifold). Good exhaust note little to quiet for my taste, super loud shot gun back fires!!
2 - Stock manifold, Racing beat down pipe-pre silencer, HKS 50mm cat back. Good midrange and top end power (but still not 100% up near redline). Heaver combo than the one above but not by much. Louder/raspier exhaust note, sharp crisp back fires.
3 - Stock manifold, Bonez down pipe pre-silencer, Racing Beat cat back. Just about the same as the first one except the exhaust note is louder and the Racing Beat is heaver than the HKS.
4 - Stock manifold, Racing Beat down pipe pre-silencer, Racing Beat cat back. Good midrange and top end power. Heaviest set up out of the 3 set ups above. Good rotary sound, poppy deep back fire sound.
5 - Racing Beat streetable header, Racing Beat pre-silencer, Racing Beat cat back. Good all around performance. Lightest system so far due to the removal of the cast exhaust manifold. Good “loud” rotary sound but back fires are now gone
6 - True Dual system w/Racing Beat components. Insane upper midrange and top end power but bottom end and off the line power suffers (I would suggest to any one that gets this system if they have there 6th ports tied open to fix what ever is wrong and make sure they work cause you will suffer even more lower end power loss). Heaviest system out of the bunch but damn does the under side of you car look BLING BLING. The best exhaust note out of the lot of them. Deep clean idle with small blurbles resonating from each rotor, that signature weed whacker on crack sound up top!!
I LOVE the tue duals, but it is expensive a little louder, and a bit on the heavy side. If you don’t have that much cash and want to keep your car on the light side I think system #5 is your best all around performer.
- Dana “Damn, Team GTUs goes through a lot of exhaust systems!!”
My GTUs is getting ready for setup #3.
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