MaxDuo

My car is a 1987 Turbo2.

This will be a slightly long post as I will explain everything. If you are impatient and don't want to read it all... Then look under the red text at the bottom so that you won't just skip the post all together.

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Well, I had a wreck a good while back and have slowly been having things fixed up. For a while the car sat at my house... Then it got to a bodyshop but had to wait 3 weeks before the guy was able to work on it. Then he was real slow (but he does a good job, and even gave me a discount for taking so long) and I get it back tomorrow.

Well, before taking it there at some time I started the car up... But mysteriously it didn't do very well. It'd turn on, then die. It wasn't able to idle. If I held down the pedal it'd stay on, but not when I let it idle. Well some others and I decided that it was because a muffler was smashed in and maybe too much back pressure.

Well it got to the shop and they cut the tip off one day. They tried to crank it up and got nothing. They realized it was flooded from when they tried for a while (guess it died the 2nd or 3rd time I had it die on me before). So they've been having to push it around the shop.


Last week after getting back from vacation and having some free time... They finally had the car off the lift and waiting to be painted. So I went there to unflood it. I was hoping it'd be simple and just did the removal of the EFI fuse way. Well, no luck there. It tried and tried, sounded here and there like it wanted to grab, but never did.

The most recent problem


Well I had to wait a few days to get back to this, and had felt kind of defeated at not being able to simply start it up before.

A friend and I went to there today to see about unflooding it by replacing the injectors, spraying some starter fluid into the spark plug holes, and then cranking it with the efi fuse out again.

So we cranked and cranked and cranked.... Letting it spew out a mist of the gas.... And when it finally finished letting out this gigantic amount of gas.... We put them back in... Hooked everything up right... And went to start the car.

I cranked it and it started! Then the AWS took control and started revving it up. Joey reminded me quickly to give it some gas... But just as soon as I started moving my foot from the middle of the mat to the gas, it stopped and died off.

And I tried to start again... reflooded. So we went through this thing 2 more times... 2nd time it didn't start up since we didn't fully do it...

So the 3rd time came... The can of starter fluid (which wasn't full to begin with anyway) was empty... And this time was going to be the last try of the day. We started it up.. BAm! It started going.

Revved to 1500RPMs.... And off.

Tried again... 1500.... off. 1500... off... 1500.... off. Giving it gas gave no response at all.


So we ended up leaving without the problem solved and very hungry for lunch.




Does anyone have any ideas as to what's wrong now and what I can do to solve the problem?

A friend suggested to me that there is a vacuum leak somewhere. Said to check the vacuum hoses.... And to check the TID to see if it wasn't knocked loose (from them removing the airbox) or isn't cracked... He also mentioned some other line that is through the passenger fender but I didn't hear it too well and can't remember much about it right now...

So I guess tomorrow when I go to pick up the car and possibly tow it home... I'm going to check all those and make sure the TID isn't cracked. If it is I'll just have to make a better one to go ahead and replace the stock one with.... Might wait til back home to do that.




Anyway. As the reward for reading the post and maybe answering me... Here's pictures of my car today with the paint on and most things back on.

MaxDuo

Well..... No replies and it's on the 2nd page.


Just wanting to see if I can get any answers before heading off...

Oh yeah, as an extra unmentioned thing, after the several attempts to start it, it did have some unburnt fuel floating out of the muffler it seemed.

vaughnc

Pull the plugs & clean them. Put a battery charger on it and set it to "start" to provide some extra cranking amps. Put a capfull of ATF in both rotors trailing sparkplug hole.

MaxDuo

Spark plugs were brand new. And we cleaned them after it reflooded.

It was hooked up to a battery charger.

And... I do plan on putting a bit of atf in to get back some compression, but I don't think that's the problem here.

Towing it home in about an hour. Don't feel like working on it there.......

Icemark

Bumps are forbidden here. I best not see another or I (or another mod or admin) will start deleting them.

Have you done even the basics... I didn't see that you did in your novel... Compression is???
Is there a vac leak (sure sounds like it)???

Have you checking anything mechanical???

kontakt

I'm not too clear on one thing, it starts but when revved past 1500 it dies, or if let under 1500 it dies, or it just sort of starts, goes to 1500 and dies regardless of throttle input.

Funkspectrum

iTrader: (5)

I think that's what he means.

I'd check for any major vaccum leaks...TID, intercooler couplings, and so forth

Agent_D

iTrader: (2)

also, check to make sure the AFM is working, and plugged in

MaxDuo

Only reason I really did bumping was because of it going to the bottom of the 2nd page and onto the 3rd page without any posts at all. I thought bumps were only unallowed when it was still on the front page??

What do you mean by the basics.... Removing the EFI fuse and trying to start from there? I did that and got nothing.



What I'm getting now is that when it starts it revs to 1500RPMs and then just dies. Giving it gas doesn't seem to change the response it gives me in anyway.


I only gave it a quick look today to see if anything obvious was loose, was too tired/hot to do much more. I didn't see anything in my brief look though...

Icemark

NO BUMPING... I guess I need to put the sticky back up. Too many people are not getting this again.

Look if you are too lame to go out and at least find some more info on the problem and are afraid that you won't be helped because your thread is on the 5th page, you need to look at the dates of some of these threads.... there are threads that newbies ressurect that are 3 years old- ....3 pages... big deal.

I mean common, if you wanted to bump and really get helped you could go out to the car and even check the spark plugs (are they wet- is it flooding???)... too see ... to actually help yourself.

Or you could see if you have a broken intake duct and post about it...That would bump it up...Or you could do some of the basics like is there a vac leak??? what is bent??? what is the battery voltage...??? what does it do when cranking???

But just bumping ... come on... only lame *** members wanting other people to do the work, bump. I suppose you want someone to come over and fix your car for you too???

RETed

No bumping...here:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/attn-new-members-read-before-posting-check-archive-faq-use-common-sense-59758/

It's in the middle and end of that thread.


-Ted

MaxDuo

OK. Let me explain why I said I was bumping when it was lower on pages. I know bumping is against the rules. But I swear sometime a while back I saw something saying bumping was wrong on the first page, that you didn't need to be at the top of it all the time. Maybe that changed, or maybe someone misinformed me in some post. I've no clue.


Now then.... I've no more use for this thread. I made it to get more suggestions on what could be wrong w/ the car. But I went out there today and found out now that I finally had time and didn't feel like crap. Those guys at the shop apparently when they took off the TID....... Didn't feel the need to CLAMP IT BACK IN. They apparently just pushed it up against that and it somewhat stayed in place. I didn't find this out until I started to try to remove the air box and check the afm today. I realized it was hanging and just had my mouth drop in disbelief.


But now she runs like a champ. So good to have my car back after the bodyshop took so long... So good to hear it again. And now to change the oil...

So glad to have this car back though. Simply hearing it running today (have to stay home to watch my little sister somewhat until the parents get back..... they'll be helpless when I return to college again and move out) made me plenty happy.

RETed

Um...let me give you a little advice.
Icemark is a moderator.
What the moderator says...goes.
If a moderator says to jump...you ask how high?
You get the picture?
No matter what someone else said (unless they were another mod or an admin), Icemark has authority to tell you (us) what to do.


Glad to hear you got it fixed!
Enjoy the car!


-Ted