Transmission Problem...new clutch new flywhee new everything!!!l
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Transmission Problem...new clutch new flywhee new everything!!!l
I'll start with what I installed, a Exedy Stage 1 clutch (it dosen't matter if the clutch was for an rx8 if the part number is same for a TII right?) paired with a fidanza flywheel (with proper counter weight)
I had no problems taking out the transmission...installed new everything, pilot bearing, pilot bearing seal, front dust seal?? (it's round and made of rubber), Transmission real seal..new fluid new bushing for the shifter
Put everything back together, first try the transmission would not go in, Figured out I put the clutch in wrong ( there was not enough space for the input shaft to clear and go in, fixed that by loosening up the pressure plate and putting in the clutch alignment tool until the input shaft would clear) and bolted the pressure plate right back up
after that fiasco, the transmission slid right in, bolted everything back together
THEN the real problem occurred, I re bled the clutch (slave and master are new) and it would go into gear alright but for some reason no Reverse, it'll grind in reverse (I could start it in reverse) btw this was all in the air.
Then I said to hell with it I'll just never use reverse again haha, but when it got back on the ground it would not go into ANY GEAR?!?!111..There is a slight amount of play in the pedal (it's always been there since I installed the new clutch)
So my question to you all, where the hell do I start?? I'm really hoping the pilot bearing didn't get destroyed because everything was brand spanking new and I'd have to everything over again..but if I have to I will
I had no problems taking out the transmission...installed new everything, pilot bearing, pilot bearing seal, front dust seal?? (it's round and made of rubber), Transmission real seal..new fluid new bushing for the shifter
Put everything back together, first try the transmission would not go in, Figured out I put the clutch in wrong ( there was not enough space for the input shaft to clear and go in, fixed that by loosening up the pressure plate and putting in the clutch alignment tool until the input shaft would clear) and bolted the pressure plate right back up
after that fiasco, the transmission slid right in, bolted everything back together
THEN the real problem occurred, I re bled the clutch (slave and master are new) and it would go into gear alright but for some reason no Reverse, it'll grind in reverse (I could start it in reverse) btw this was all in the air.
Then I said to hell with it I'll just never use reverse again haha, but when it got back on the ground it would not go into ANY GEAR?!?!111..There is a slight amount of play in the pedal (it's always been there since I installed the new clutch)
So my question to you all, where the hell do I start?? I'm really hoping the pilot bearing didn't get destroyed because everything was brand spanking new and I'd have to everything over again..but if I have to I will
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I had to adjust mine to have to slave cyl push the fork out farther, although its a master cylinder from god only knows what year n/a driving a japanese tii master cylinder. I believe when I loosened the lock nut I had to spin the rod clockwise, but i'll have to get down there tomorrow and check for sure.
Have a buddy pump the clutch while you check for proper slave cylinder/release bearing for movement.
Have a buddy pump the clutch while you check for proper slave cylinder/release bearing for movement.
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I had to adjust mine to have to slave cyl push the fork out farther, although its a master cylinder from god only knows what year n/a driving a japanese tii master cylinder. I believe when I loosened the lock nut I had to spin the rod clockwise, but i'll have to get down there tomorrow and check for sure.
Have a buddy pump the clutch while you check for proper slave cylinder/release bearing for movement.
Have a buddy pump the clutch while you check for proper slave cylinder/release bearing for movement.
hopefully i'll make some progress tomorrow thx for the help, I'll update my findings tomorrow
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I wonder IF you put the Throw out in Backwards?..(it happens).by the way..I ordered a throw out bearing for a n/a..the Product number was the same for a TII.
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i had the same problem when i replaced my clutch and flywheel and everything well actually i have had the problem when i bleed my clutch fluid to, all i did was adjust the clutch pedal at the top of it under the dash u losen the 12 millimeter nut and losen it quite a bit then spin the rod until the clutch pedal assembly hits the nut again, u want to pull it out as far as you think u can then try driving it and if it doesnt work just tinker with it until it works
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i had the same problem when i replaced my clutch and flywheel and everything well actually i have had the problem when i bleed my clutch fluid to, all i did was adjust the clutch pedal at the top of it under the dash u losen the 12 millimeter nut and losen it quite a bit then spin the rod until the clutch pedal assembly hits the nut again, u want to pull it out as far as you think u can then try driving it and if it doesnt work just tinker with it until it works
Also to misterstyx69 that might be true for rx7's but it's different for an rx8 they use a thinner (well smaller) release bearing, I'm assuming it's because it's a 6 speed not a 5 like ours (So in the end it's really my fault as to why the car isn't working like it should in theory haha)
(I confirmed the part numbers, they are different, I just have to take down my tranny again to compare with a brand new TII TB I have now)
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DAMN IT!!! I switched out the throw out bearing and I still have the same persistent problem..I'm really out of ideas here (I had the pilot bearing replaced as well),
the only other thing I can think of is when I press the clutch in, I hear a strange squeaky sound when the car is on or off coming from the transmission and I've installed the transmission 3 times already I can't seem to get that fork play either
(there's supposed to be a lil play but nada I'll slip the tranny in and there will be a little but once I tighten up the bolts it's stiff as a rock) from what I could tell there's nothing wrong with my fork...Guess I'll look into replacing that
the only other thing I can think of is when I press the clutch in, I hear a strange squeaky sound when the car is on or off coming from the transmission and I've installed the transmission 3 times already I can't seem to get that fork play either
(there's supposed to be a lil play but nada I'll slip the tranny in and there will be a little but once I tighten up the bolts it's stiff as a rock) from what I could tell there's nothing wrong with my fork...Guess I'll look into replacing that
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Yea I double checked that before I put the transmission back in and before I bolted it back up, after I bolted it back up it was one stiff ****...I'm hoping my fork is bent So it'll just be my forth time dropping the tranny to try something again...I'm gonna look though the service hole today to check out the clutch and T/B movements
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I finally got the slave to extend alot further then normal, and I was under the car while I had a friend pushing the clutch in and out....I made such a stupid amateur mistake...Looks like some of the bolts for the pressure plate are freaking loose because of the washers I used...gonna drop the tranny for the 4th time tommorrow and get this mess cleaned up hopefully
I finally got the slave to extend alot further then normal, and I was under the car while I had a friend pushing the clutch in and out....I made such a stupid amateur mistake...Looks like some of the bolts for the pressure plate are freaking loose because of the washers I used...gonna drop the tranny for the 4th time tommorrow and get this mess cleaned up hopefully
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DAMN IT!!! I switched out the throw out bearing and I still have the same persistent problem..I'm really out of ideas here (I had the pilot bearing replaced as well),
the only other thing I can think of is when I press the clutch in, I hear a strange squeaky sound when the car is on or off coming from the transmission and I've installed the transmission 3 times already I can't seem to get that fork play either
(there's supposed to be a lil play but nada I'll slip the tranny in and there will be a little but once I tighten up the bolts it's stiff as a rock) from what I could tell there's nothing wrong with my fork...Guess I'll look into replacing that
the only other thing I can think of is when I press the clutch in, I hear a strange squeaky sound when the car is on or off coming from the transmission and I've installed the transmission 3 times already I can't seem to get that fork play either
(there's supposed to be a lil play but nada I'll slip the tranny in and there will be a little but once I tighten up the bolts it's stiff as a rock) from what I could tell there's nothing wrong with my fork...Guess I'll look into replacing that
YOU CANNOT PUSH THE FORK BY HAND!!!!
YOU CANNOT PUSH THE FORK BY HAND!!!!!!"
...and it worked just right
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Oh well I guess I'll talk about my results, the reason the car wouldn't engage gears was because the bolts on the PP (Figured that out by taking the inspection cover off the tranny while it was mounted and had someone play with the clutch pedal) were extremely loose and I never notived the dowel pins were supposed to be perfectly aligned, but after I tighten them down ALL WAS WELL!!
Thats about it, other than that All i needed to do was adjust the clutch pedal rod to get a better engagement when going though the gears
Thats about it, other than that All i needed to do was adjust the clutch pedal rod to get a better engagement when going though the gears
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