SCCAITS

iTrader: (3)

WTF? I sourced out what is supposed to be a reputable transmission shop in my area. They did a complete rebuild on the tranny for $800. It's a NA 5spd. I had a buddy at a local shop bolt it back in the car tonight and it won't go into 3rd or R now. The tranny was fine before, I just wanted it freshened up as it's in a race car. I had the tranny pulled before it went to the rebuild shop.

Any ideas? Too bad the tranny shop is closed on Sat and Sun or I would be there when they open.

Edit: 1,2,4,5 are difficult to get into gear. 3 and R simply won't happen.

fastrotaries

You'd think they would be able to do it??? My friend tried the same with his FD and it was bad, he wound up having to buy another used transmission with "supposedly" low miles.

fastrotaries

Please let us know how it turns out, and what the possible faults are if they do get things sorted out. I've spent several $KKK on my motor, and to drive around with a stock tranny with 100K+ miles, seems absurd to me. I'd like to get some sort of upgrade or at least freshen up what I have.

micah

I had a similar problem with a pilot bearing being the problem. I goofed up the pilot bearing when installing the transmission (you DID replace the pilot bearing... RIGHT?) and I couldn't get into certain gears. I had to drive home without a clutch for the most part.

I'd to the pilot bearing first.... make sure you do the pilot bearing AND seal (mazda OEM, not a knockoff). If that doesn't work, they probably fuggered something up. Put a syncro gear in backwards or something. Its pretty easy to do for an amateur, but any transmission shop should be able to get that right....


EDIT: I just realized that you've PROBABLY tried it with the engine off.... if its not shifting into those gears with the engine off.. its not going to be the pilot bearing unfortunately. I'd take the tranny back and make them fix it (don't let them charge you either)

arghx

iTrader: (3)

hydraulic problem? Is the clutch actually releasing?

SCCAITS

iTrader: (3)

The transmission shop did one for another guy on this forum. - that's how I found the shop. Another racer referred someone who had theirs done and then I did. I would think they know right from left.

The pilot bearing has less than 10 hours on it, it was replaced with the clutch (which also has less than 10 hours on it). The clutch seems to be working fine. The guy who installed it at my buddies shop has his ASE certification in MT - I saw his stuff on the wall, so I would think he knows what he's doing.

Is there any type of "adjustment" on these? I didn't find anything in my search.

When the problem is identified I'll let you know, especially if it's the tranny shop and who they are.

Secondmessiah

give them a call and ask them, but dont be belligerent

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

nope, short and simply they screwed up your tranny.

thing that gets me is why didn't they bench test the tranny before giving it to you? that is just ignorant and i would be pissed.. the tranny doesn't go into either gear even with the engine off right? they would have known that had they simply tried bench testing it prior to delivery.

Bama420

iTrader: (1)

ISC Racing Services. We only work on Miatas and Rx7s. We are in Winter Haven, Fl. We only work on SCCA track cars. We have tons of ITA, ITS, SM, IT7, ITB, etc, etc, etc. Racing is our business. The owner (my boss) is Mike Van Steenburg and has been racing about 15 years before I was born (I'm 19). I don't know if I'm breaking rules or not, but our website is www.iscracing.net Again, sorry if I broke any rules, but we will fix your troubles.

micah

So did mine.... and it was installed professionally as well. But.. they didn't do it right. Mistakes happen. Don't trust everybody. However, it wouldn't explain if it still didn't go into gear when the engine was off. Same with hydraulics. even with the clutch out, it should shift into those gears with the engine off.

SCCAITS

iTrader: (3)

I have bought things from you guys and talked to Mike a few times.

SCCAITS

iTrader: (3)

I agree. WTF? It will not go into 3rd or R gear with the engine on or off. Simply will not happen. I even tried a different shifter I had today. I can go through the gears on my spare tranny no problem. The rebuilt - no 3rd or R. It's getting trailered to the tranny shop Monday 8:00am. I won't raise hell until the exact problem is known. Why the fu*k would they not go through the gears? Am I supposed to do this when I pick it up? If need be I'll call AMEX on Monday and file a dispute.

It's like the time I got my car back from a shop that was recommended only to find a laundry list of problems, big ones like the nut missing from the rear control arm outer mount and a cross threaded caliper bolt sticking out 1/2" and more. I do all my own work on the car now. I guess I need to learn how to rebuild my own tranny's as well.

SCCAITS

iTrader: (3)

Quoting the guy at the shop.. "my bad". He then went on to say he must have got the parts mixed up when washing them. He put 3 or 4 "slider pins" back in and they were all flush on one side. He said when he took it apart today he found out one is about 1/4" longer than the others and was sticking out on the other side. Apparently they were not all the same size. This is why the transmission wouldn't shift. He got the slider pins in the right spots now. I'm afraid what else may have been done wrong. Since this is a race car tranny - no warranty. Once it goes into gear it's all my problem. Do they not bench test?


WTF is wrong with shops? This was a nice, clean, big, independent, recommended place. There name was XXXXX automatic transmissions. That's all they do - trannys!

So far I recommended the following shops who have worked on my car: None. Even my buddy who put the tranny in forget to tighten down the 2 slave cylinder bolts. I discovered this while inspecting his work, both bolts were sticking out about 3/8".

tiresmoke

i had a simular problem when i installed a transmission in my car. i could not shift to 5th or reverse, and had to force it in to 3rd and 4th. but all it was was the cylinder below the shifter that is spring loaded and has a bolt pushing on it with a ball bearing on the end. this alows you to feel the gear placements. but on my car that cylinder some how spun and jamed up so that it would not shift. to check for that simply remove the 2 bults and the big bolt on the back and drop all that stuff out, be carfull not to loose the ball bearing that will fall out with it. then try shifting to see if its internal. if you need picks so that its clearer just ask, hope thats all it is.

racerlinkfc

hey im currently having the same problem with my tranny it will not go into 5th or reverse all the other gears are fine . i havent driven my car in over a year all that is delaying it is the tranny issue . we took the two bolts out and the one with the bolt in the back and i have not seen any ball bearing maybe mine fell out would anyone happen to know where i can get a replacement ? oh one more thing the small clip that holds the shifter in place inside the tranny broke off and we took all that crap out of their . thanks any help will be greatly appreciated !