KingCobraV9

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ok i got a prob. i got the bottum of the tranny ligned up and bolted in but the top is not ligned up. it is but not on all the way its about 3/4'' off of being flush with the engine. how can i get the top to be flush? if i can get it flush and get a nut on to the bolt that up there i can get it on but i cant get it flush. how is it done?

aka_rocket

did you align the clutch. i had a similar problem and it was because i didn't align the clutch and the tranny kept bumping into the clutch/pressure plate. i thought the tranny was in but it wasn't. check that out.

sometimes you just gotta jiggle a little, may be alot too.

WAYNE88N/A

Dude, you should be able to wiggle her on until she's damn near flush everywhere. Are you sure that the tranny input shaft splines are lined up with the pressure plate correctly? Or sure you're not hitting on the pilot bearing?

You need to back out the bottom bolts again, DO NOT try to tighten the bolts down to get her to seat properly...

KingCobraV9

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i did use a clutch alignment tool so its all stright and when i put the tranny in a gear the driveshaft wont spin so i gess its on the splines then right? it just is a lil bit off like 1/4'' (looked again) from being flush w/ the top.

BlaCkPlaGUE

can you get a pic of what your referring to?

KingCobraV9

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i wish i couldbut no i cant ill try to describe it as best i can tho.

(under the car sliding in from the front) you see the transmission is flush with the engine as it schould be and i have 2 bolts loosly in these holes.
(under the car sliding in from the back) you see the back of the transmission is supported by a jack and is jacked up to the point where it hits the top of the tunnel.
(from top looking into engine bay from passenger side) close to the firewall where the engine and the transmission are suposed to meet up and be flush there is a small gap about 1/2 to 1/4''
(what you cant see) i used a clutch alignment tool to lign up the clutch so its stright on.
(what you cant do) if the trans is in gear you cant turn the driveshaft

thats it basicly hope it helps

KingCobraV9

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i know its allot to read but i cant get it in and i want to drive my car again.... i miss it

CompuBob

I've run into this problem before, I just grabbed a big pair of adjustable plyers, you know, the ones that have like 10 size settings, put it on max grabbed the tranny with one part, the block with the other and squeezed till they came together good enough to put a bolt in.. once yu get it close enough I think if you hit the clutch it will loosen up and you can tighten the bolts fully.

trochoid

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If the bottom is flush and the top is only out 1/4":

1. Try tilting the top of the engine rearward.

2 Place a pry bar between the shifter housing and the shifter hole in the tunnel,
pushing the tranny forwards and up.

Once the shifter housing is within the tunnel hole, everything should slide into place.

Rotaryhaven

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You need to have someone else tilt the engine for you so you can get a better angle/alignment. When I am underneath the car. I roll the tranny to my chest and use my knees to hold the output shaft and my two hands around the bell housing. Slide it in and wiggle side to side. You would be surprised how quick you get it in with a partner tilting the engine for you. Remember with no tranny the motor has shifted off position, only things holding it are the motor mounts. Sometimes they tilt too forward or back, Just get somebody to help you adjusting the engine.

KingCobraV9

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alright thanks allot guys ill try and mess with it arter school with one of my friends who is a big guy lol i kinda need my car for the weekend so i got to get this done!!

Turbonut

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Yes, just as previous post states. I usually tilt the back down and put a piece of wood under the front to keep it angled down. When you do this, you'll find it will slide right in.

YearsOfDecay

Those plastic clutch alignment tools are CRAP.... they can leave the hub of JUST FREAKIN ENOUGH so that the tranny won't slide in and you end up with what you got....

here is what I do... (after having a tranny fall on my face cause i refused to believe that the clutch wasn't line up cause i used the tool dammit)

I put the disc on using a alignment tool... then, i sit indian style in the tranny tunnel (this is no small feat being that I'm 6'3" and weigh about 235!!!!) and eyeball down the splines on the clutch hub. I eyeball flat down the slipnes at the 12, 3 , 6 and 9 ocluck positions and compare their relative positin on the chamfer on the end of the eccentric shaft. (this is similar to open sights on a shotgun, you lmake it so that the spline is perfectly flat and then see how much of the chafer is on top of it, like the ball on the end of a shotgun rail)

then i nudge the clutch around until everything looks the same at all four positions.

You eye is an extremely accurate tool... if something looks off, it most likely is!!!

When i rebuilt my last motor, i installed the clutch with a clutch tool while the motor was on the stand and the flywheel facing up... so i figured that the clutch should be aligned cause i shouldn't have slipped down at all.... WRONG...

the eyeball method has neve failed me!!!!

Sleeper69

I had a friend push the engine back for me. Make sure that the shifter housing isnt hitting on the underside and getting blocked. I would already have the crossmember attached to the tranny so that you know youve got everything ligned up right there before you start tighening on the bell housing.

Turbonut

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Words of wisdom. The plastic alignment tool has a tendency to drop down with the weight of the disc if it's not held securely, so proper alignment is difficult. Almost forgot, that after I install the disc, even using my metal clutch alignment tool, I always eyeball the alignment before installing the trans as stated above.

speeddemon32

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same problem here.... to go this thread to read more
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/why-oh-why-so-hard-put-tranny-364895/

Tiers

I never hear this in anyones described methods , but after doing several installs both in and out of car, I do a lot of the above mentioned things with one difference...

I take the longest bolts(or extra proper thread bolts from my spare bolts bag) and use them as a guide to gettin her on.

Anotherwards when you get her ready to slam togetrher, I take first long bolt and thread it in to bottom hole, then manuever the engine/tranny to get a top bolt in then she just simply starts to slide together. The bolts do the aligning. The one trick/thing/precaution is you cannot allow the engine or tranny to actually put hanging weight onto the bolts (duh makes sense you dont wanna bend them or screw the thread, not hard at all really).

Just make sure you remember to move the longer bolts back to there proper location.
This extra method has made aligning absolutely simple as you also can see the exact angle of the engine or tranny by the angle of the bolt in the hole.

KingCobraV9

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god finaly home high school sucks! ok ill try undoing the moter mounts and see what happens i had been pusing the engine back but not much maybe undoing the moter mounts will help. and i didnt tale the allignment tool for the clutch out till i tourked down the pressure plate but i didnt eyeball it. i looked at it and it looked ok but i didnt get in depth with it if tilting doesnt work ill have to take the trans off again...... damn....

KingCobraV9

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ok i got the top to go on but the botom isnt aligned any more gah!! god hates me

speeddemon32

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not to be mean, but its nice to see that i am not the only one that has this problem. if you read in my thread (the one i posted above) you will see that most people made it sound easy.