Kory_yahi

Just got done installing new pilot bearing, reused perfect throwout bearing (only about 5k miles on it), used lightsteel flywheel with auto counterweight, stage 3 clutch disk and pressure plate with a spacer kit from midway (spacerkit was made by a different company then clutch and lightsteel flywheel if that matters.)

Everything is all in and revs fine. The tranny is acting like it is stuck in neutral. Turn it on put it in any gear, let go of the clutch pedal and sits and idles like it was in neutral.

Please contact me back asap with help and possible problems, car has been undergoing this for more then a week and I need the car back.

Thanks in advance guys.

Kory_yahi

by the way before it was put back in I took it to a transmission shop and they inspected a bearing inside of it because I was going to have them replace it but the guy said it was cherry. But they did replace some seals I supplied them. Could they have messed something up in the tranny while doing this?

Project84

Since you just did clutch work, I would say that the problem is with the clutch not contacting the flywheel properly and that is why you can put it in gear but the engine doesn't turn the tranny or rear wheels.

Kory_yahi

yes, it also doesn't even stall when I "put it in gear" and let go of the clutch pedal.

Project84

You put the drive shaft back in after you installed the tranny right? I'm just throwing ideas out there, but it most likely has to be the clutch. Removing and installing the tranny won't break it, and it would be too ironic that the tranny just give out on you right when you go to run it after changing the clutch. What is that spacer kit for?

Kory_yahi

the LS flywheel I got is flat all the way around. Unlike the stock flywheel there are little mounds for the pressure plate to sit up on. So it creates a gap between the new LS flywheel and the pressureplate.

Project84

Once you tighened everything down, the flywheel clutch and the pressure plate were tight right? It didn't create too much of a gap did it? The flywheel shouldn't move once the pressure plate is bolted in place, else the plate isn't doing its job of clamping the flywheel nd clutch together to allow the engine to turn the tranny. Don't mean to insult your knowledge, I just don't know if you have replaced clutches before.

Kory_yahi

My friend actually did that part of placing the clutch disk and pressure plate on the flywheel. I just called him to confirm and he said everything went on right and seemed fine.

Project84

Hmm. Normally, if you sit a flywheel down, and put a pressure plate on top of it, the friction surface of the plate will contact the surface of the flywheel and the flange of the plate will not touch the flywheel. There should be a slight gap. If you have a flat flywheel, that gap will be huge. I can see the need for a spacer, but too big of a spacer will make the pressure plate move too far away from the clutch and not be able to press it against the flywheel. I'd hate to tell you, but you probably have to pull the tranny and look at it and see if the spacers are too big.

Kory_yahi

Yeah. I was afraid that could be it. Because aqcuiring that spacer kit delayed this project (while in progress) about a week.

Project84

Is the spacer kit adjustable? I mean can you add or remove some of the spacers to set the pressure plate to a new height? That might be what you need to do. If its set to one size, it might be the wrong size for the flywheel and pressure plate you are using.

Kory_yahi

the spacers are solid aluminum. They kind of look like a pilot bearing a little bit. But more thicker and not as much room in the center.

Project84

They might be too tall. That is the only thing I can think of that would cause the tranny to act like its in nuetral all the time. When you bought them, did they say that they were made for a specific clutch/flywheel combination or did they just list a measurement for the spacer and assume that the buyers would know what size they would need?

Kory_yahi

I am not sure. I had another friend purchase them from midway for me. He also had to under-go the spacers in his SE. That is why I knew to use them. But the spacers could be specificly for their LS flywheels, and not be compatiable with my LS flywheel.

Project84

Only one way to find out for sure. I bet you could have the tranny out by dark

Oh, and just out of curiousity, who makes the flywheel that you have?

Kory_yahi

That is the thing. I do not know. I am not sure if the guy who sold it to me knows either.

Project84

Is your engine a S4 or S5 and is it a N/A or turbo? I have a stock flywheel for a S4 turbo and N/A engine in my garage. I can measure the hieght of the stock spacer mounds and let you know what they are. That way, if the ones you bought are too big, you can take them to a machine shop and have them cut down to the stock size. That might work. I'm not 100% sure though, since I've never seen this problem.

Kory_yahi

mine is a series 4. Yeah I know you probably wouldn't of seen this. I had alot of the forums members here asking "wtf" when I asked if anyone had spacer kits for sale. I actually had a couple of people chime in to prove them I wasn't nuts.

Kory_yahi

n/a by the way.

Siraniko

iTrader: (13)

kori
thats a common problem with any aftermarket flywheel such as aluminum or lightened steel. adjust the clutch pedal's push rod as in make it longer.

Kory_yahi

I just called my friend, he said the clutch pedal is doing it's job and his pushing the throwout bearing.

Kory_yahi

I was messing with it my self and the clutch pedal really did not seem to have any function, because of the tranny seeming to be stuck in neutral. All the clutch pedal was needed for was starting it, other then that it had no function. The shifter went into all 6 gears freely without using the pedal and using the pedal, it made no difference.

Siraniko

iTrader: (13)

thats true but you have to check it under load. meaning, adjust the push rod while the car is running.

HAI-TEK7

iTrader: (31)

check the throw out bearing, make sure its on the fork correctly. I seen this before on a 1st gen, and it had the same symptoms.

Good luck

Kory_yahi

I am confused how that will make a difference adjusting the length. Even with the fact that the clutch pedal doesn't even need to be pushed in when the car is in "1st" and it doesn't stall..