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Old 03-06-08, 11:51 PM
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Tokico with =?

I have tokico blue's on my s5 N/A and I want to change the stock springs to something else, it would be for pure street/city/mountain driving, I know most people would say save up for coilovers but I just need something to replace my stock springs, what would be a decent match for them? I was thinking the Tein S-Tech since it has about a 1in. drop rate all around, and I don't want to slam my car down >_> Suggestions?
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Racing beat. I hear they are a bit stiff, no experience personally yet.

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hmm are the s4 and s5 set up similar? i was told tokico blue's with cut springs was good but iunno i'm new myself i just got my car exactly 2weeks from today.. i'm curious myself but mines an s4
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i got the blue with the racing beat, i say go for rb since its an actual performance spring unlike eibach springs that are less performance more look. btw DONT GET INTRAX they suck to much of a drop and yet not as stiff as the rb springs i had them
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what are the spring rates on those rb
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i got the blue with the racing beat, i say go for rb since its an actual performance spring unlike eibach springs that are less performance more look. btw DONT GET INTRAX they suck to much of a drop and yet not as stiff as the rb springs i had them
since rb is performance would that be too harsh for DD?
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Originally Posted by rx7fct
since rb is performance would that be too harsh for DD?
it's pretty relative, but I would say no. the spring rates are 20% stiffer according to the website, which is still pretty soft and ideal for a daily driver. Your shocks will have a greater impact on ride quality.
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Originally Posted by n1ko
it's pretty relative, but I would say no. the spring rates are 20% stiffer according to the website, which is still pretty soft and ideal for a daily driver. Your shocks will have a greater impact on ride quality.
does that mean i'll have to upgrade my tokico blue's also? >_>

btw, i've heard talk about tanabe and tein, but since people haven't brought it up, im guessing those are more towards track/autox/competition?
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well the blues and the rb srings do very well on street imo and when on curvy roads its a whole lot better then stock, tho when its down to auto x and what not i will up to coilovers , so far stance gr pros are on top of the list. stay away from megan racing coilovers iv read and seen bad bad naughty things
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how about tein s.tech and tanabe/eibach, any opinions there?
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teins are good but stands more for looks rather then performance unless you get coilovers from them which are badass awesome, tanabe i dont know much about them and eibach isnt all that compared to the rb's springs
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I've searched this before and read good things about the Tanabe springs. Some people have Tein S Tech's (I have mine in a box, saving up for Tokico HP's to go in at the same time). Two things about Teins: Make sure that if you get them you get genuine ones (scam going around). The other thing is I've read some fitment problems here about the front spring rubbing on the tire, but in one case it may have been because a Tein spring for an NA was used in the turbo, or something.

I'm also looking for people's input on the Tein S.Techs on the NA's with stock wheels.
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wow, so much good opinions, gonna be hard to choice which ones to buy >_>
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If you're not tracking it, coilovers seem to be a waste. Tokico blue/RB spring setup works very well, I had it on my NA. Not too stiff for bumps and dips, but when combined with RB sways and a strut bar, almost zero roll as well (assuming reasonable speeds). Now I'm running stock TII shocks on... some aftermarket springs (I bought it like that) and it seems to be well sorted. But maybe that's just the TII talking.
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( ^ ) <-_-> ( ^ )
do you have any pics of your car, im curious what tokicos and RB looks like
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Originally Posted by fc3s kit
If you're not tracking it, coilovers seem to be a waste. Tokico blue/RB spring setup works very well, I had it on my NA. Not too stiff for bumps and dips, but when combined with RB sways and a strut bar, almost zero roll as well (assuming reasonable speeds). Now I'm running stock TII shocks on... some aftermarket springs (I bought it like that) and it seems to be well sorted. But maybe that's just the TII talking.
im assuming reasonable speed is another way of saying, sign speed for turns? give or take 5mph.
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+1 for the RB/Tokico blue setup on your street car. I had the coupe version on my Vert and it was very nice. NOT to stiff for a daily driver. I actually suspect that this setup is similar in ride to your RX7 when its suspension was new.
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Originally Posted by SE7ENS_GARAGE
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do you have any pics of your car, im curious what tokicos and RB looks like
i will as soon as i get a chance which hopefully will be soon when i swap my wheels
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too stiff for a dd really depends on the person driving. i have 10k all around on one of my cars
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Originally Posted by m1northreat
too stiff for a dd really depends on the person driving. i have 10k all around on one of my cars

what is too stiff? which pair were you referring to?
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he's just saying it depends on the person and that his rates are 10k all around. and he's right, it's relative to the person. i'm under the assumption that people here wouldn't be comfortable unless it was maybe... at least a 5/10 on the stiff scale, 1 being SUV bouncy and 10 being damn near "your wheels are welded to your chassis".

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How it sat on 16's with 50 series azenis

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Originally Posted by fc3s kit
he's just saying it depends on the person and that his rates are 10k all around. and he's right, it's relative to the person. i'm under the assumption that people here wouldn't be comfortable unless it was maybe... at least a 5/10 on the stiff scale, 1 being SUV bouncy and 10 being damn near "your wheels are welded to your chassis".

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How it sat on 16's with 50 series azenis
are those the tanabe's? or what brand? i can't tell the color >_>
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I have RB springs and tokicos. They're a good match. The ride is a little bumpy sometimes but still notably softer than some new sports cars. I always assumed RB were on the soft end, though not as soft as stock. But Eibach and suspension techniques are at least as soft. See http://www.mazdatrix.com/h4586-92.htm. RB knows what they're doing and almost everyone in this community loves their quality parts. I'd go with them.
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Originally Posted by rx7fct
are those the tanabe's? or what brand? i can't tell the color >_>
those look red so i would say RB. Tanabe is bright orange



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