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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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TII not started for over a year, how to revive?

Hi guys,
Im sure there is a thread for this but im pressed for time since i have to take a road trip to pick up an 87 with a 91 tII engine (rebuilt and has 30,000 miles on it) pretty soon and i am packing and stressing at the same time.

Now here is a quick rundown:
-My friend is selling me his project car that he got tired of working on. it has everything for a tII swap EXCEPT the turbo driveshaft and rear end.
-I have a 90 gtu n/a and i want to swap everything from the 87 into my car.

I want to make sure the tII engine runs well.
So if i try to turn it on, is there any harm that i can cause to the car because it doesnt have the drive shaft or rear end?
And if it doesnt start how can i revive it so it does start?

THANK YOU ALL!
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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you could damage the transmission if it doesn't have any fluid in it, but a quick start/shutdown might not hurt.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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hmm. wont that flood the engine? the whole starting and turning off right after thing?
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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go ahead and fire it up
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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well if it doesnt have a drive shaft, you will have to make the tail of the trans from leaking oil, if there is oil in there. Just dont put it in gear when it starts.

I normally put a little oil in the chambers to build compression when starting it. Also, make sure its fresh gas and not gas thats been sitting for months.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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sweet. thanks alot. if anyone else has ideas, they're more than welcome.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Knight RX7 FC3S
well if it doesnt have a drive shaft, you will have to make the tail of the trans from leaking oil, if there is oil in there. Just dont put it in gear when it starts.

I normally put a little oil in the chambers to build compression when starting it. Also, make sure its fresh gas and not gas thats been sitting for months.
Ive actually had someone tell me this before but I didnt understand how. And I still don't.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 03:07 AM
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if your worried about the trany then just keep the clutch pushed in, then the input shaft isnt spining at all?

some people like to put a lil oil in there and turn it by hand a few times incase the seals are kind fo sticky and to help build compression better.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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just get a rubber glove and slip it over the transmission output or put an oil pan underneath the end of the tranny.

running the engine with the clutch depressed also isn't good for the thrust bearings in the front of the engine, especially when starting up because there is no oil on them.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Well, he has to start the engine with the clutch depressed anyway, and by the time he would be letting off the clutch after start up, he should have sufficient oil pressure built up....assuming the engine has good oil pressure.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jjwalker
Well, he has to start the engine with the clutch depressed anyway, and by the time he would be letting off the clutch after start up, he should have sufficient oil pressure built up....assuming the engine has good oil pressure.
in reference to the ones who said to warm up the car fully while holding the clutch pedal down the whole time.

even with lubrication it is NOT good to hold the clutch down that long. the torrington bearings can only take so much friction before they start to peel material off the thrust surfaces(even with proper lubrication). i can always tell who drives in alot of traffic or for short distances by how bad the torrington bearings look.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Karack
in reference to the ones who said to warm up the car fully while holding the clutch pedal down the whole time.

even with lubrication it is NOT good to hold the clutch down that long. the torrington bearings can only take so much friction before they start to peel material off the thrust surfaces(even with proper lubrication). i can always tell who drives in alot of traffic or for short distances by how bad the torrington bearings look.
Oh good lord, I didn't realize they where talking about holding the clutch down that long. Your right.

I meant for a short period to know if the car runs or not, not for 15 minutes while the car warms up. Hell, that isn't good for the thrust bearing on the clutch either.

Yeah, don't leave the clutch pedal down for 15 minutes.
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