Are these HKS Turbo Timers legit off Ebay?
04-18-12, 07:42 PM
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Are these HKS Turbo Timers legit off Ebay?
Hey was looking at these turbo timers and saw they are shipped from china so was wondering if they are even genuine or knock offs of the HKS brand? They seem too cheap to be genuine HKS. Any input?http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-JDM-BLAC...#ht_1837wt_954
04-18-12, 07:57 PM
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You can buy 2-3 used brand-name turbo timers in Japan for the price of one eBay knockoff. lol. They're so plentiful because everyone gets one. Although I haven't yet... but that's because I don't want to pay for the installation.
If's its on eBay and it ships from China, it's fake. The end. Because even if they were made in China, they would still be shipped from an HKS dealer or from HKS Japan.
If's its on eBay and it ships from China, it's fake. The end. Because even if they were made in China, they would still be shipped from an HKS dealer or from HKS Japan.
04-18-12, 08:08 PM
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So this one is probably better. Plus its genuine and already has the harness for my FC http://www.ebay.com/itm/220998098467...84.m1423.l2649
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04-18-12, 09:25 PM
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^ I had an A'PEXi turbo timer. It would turn the car off with key out at a specified time or (when the key was out) if you put the hand brake down. As long as you had the hand brake up it would run to the specified time with the key out, but once the hand brake was down... The car was off immediately. It was cool for awhile. Until it gave me some issues.
The O2 voltage feature was useless, the AFR feature was narrow-band and probably not very accurate, the timer is pointless, and the battery voltage feature was about the only useful thing. Who knows if it even read properly, though. I can't vouch for the HKS turbo timers, but they're probably all pretty similar.
It isn't even worth the few dollars and harness hacking to buy one. Just take the time to let your turbo cool down a little bit before turning your car off. We have water/oil cooled turbos anyway.
The O2 voltage feature was useless, the AFR feature was narrow-band and probably not very accurate, the timer is pointless, and the battery voltage feature was about the only useful thing. Who knows if it even read properly, though. I can't vouch for the HKS turbo timers, but they're probably all pretty similar.
It isn't even worth the few dollars and harness hacking to buy one. Just take the time to let your turbo cool down a little bit before turning your car off. We have water/oil cooled turbos anyway.
04-18-12, 09:33 PM
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Turbo timers are to keep the oil in the turbo flowing while it cools down to prevent coking of the oil, nothing else. It's not to cool down the turbo itself... that will obviously cool down if you just turn the engine off. But if the oil cokes and clogs the oil lines, good bye turbo.
My MR-2s owners manual says you should let it run for at least 30 seconds after driving at over 50-60 or so, and for at least a minute when you drive over 60 MPH, or use heavy throttle, etc...
A turbo timer just does this for you. Some of them can also function as boost gauges with an extra sensor, like the Blitz FATT.
My MR-2s owners manual says you should let it run for at least 30 seconds after driving at over 50-60 or so, and for at least a minute when you drive over 60 MPH, or use heavy throttle, etc...
A turbo timer just does this for you. Some of them can also function as boost gauges with an extra sensor, like the Blitz FATT.
04-19-12, 02:30 AM
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I had one, i found it anoying because you cant lock the car and set the alarm if it is still running. Unless you re-wire the alarm system.
So you have to stay with the car till it shuts down, so whats the point then.. just let it run a little longer before shutting it off.
I also experienced, that it is totally bullshit to have one if you have a proper functioning cooling system.
Do you ever drive a car on the street so hard that the oil is so much hotter then normal and then stop and shut down the car in a matter of seconds?
If you do, you parked your car on the motorway...
In normal conditions, you don't drive like a maniac to your front door, and even if you do, by the time you parked the car, it has cooled down enough to not need a turbo timer
So you have to stay with the car till it shuts down, so whats the point then.. just let it run a little longer before shutting it off.
I also experienced, that it is totally bullshit to have one if you have a proper functioning cooling system.
Do you ever drive a car on the street so hard that the oil is so much hotter then normal and then stop and shut down the car in a matter of seconds?
If you do, you parked your car on the motorway...
In normal conditions, you don't drive like a maniac to your front door, and even if you do, by the time you parked the car, it has cooled down enough to not need a turbo timer
04-19-12, 03:09 AM
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get a car alarm that has this feature built in.. I had a 2 way pager alarm installed in my old 240sx years ago, I could program it via remote on how long I wanted it to run after, and when I turned the car of via key, after the set time the remote would beep letting me know the car shut off.
04-19-12, 03:22 AM
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I had one, i found it anoying because you cant lock the car and set the alarm if it is still running. Unless you re-wire the alarm system.
So you have to stay with the car till it shuts down, so whats the point then.. just let it run a little longer before shutting it off.
I also experienced, that it is totally bullshit to have one if you have a proper functioning cooling system.
Do you ever drive a car on the street so hard that the oil is so much hotter then normal and then stop and shut down the car in a matter of seconds?
If you do, you parked your car on the motorway...
In normal conditions, you don't drive like a maniac to your front door, and even if you do, by the time you parked the car, it has cooled down enough to not need a turbo timer
So you have to stay with the car till it shuts down, so whats the point then.. just let it run a little longer before shutting it off.
I also experienced, that it is totally bullshit to have one if you have a proper functioning cooling system.
Do you ever drive a car on the street so hard that the oil is so much hotter then normal and then stop and shut down the car in a matter of seconds?
If you do, you parked your car on the motorway...
In normal conditions, you don't drive like a maniac to your front door, and even if you do, by the time you parked the car, it has cooled down enough to not need a turbo timer
If you don't have an alarm, it's not really an issue.
If you are patient enough to let your car idle a bit before shutting it off, obviously there is no need for a turbo timer.
And yeah, if you drive normally for 4-5 minutes before shutting off, there is no need to idle.
04-19-12, 01:59 PM
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Karack, does this apply to after market turbos that are coolant cooled as well??? i dont see why not, but better to be safe than sorry.
04-19-12, 02:03 PM
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Making your car sit still and bake without air moving through the engine bay as a "safety" procedure is dumb. If you've just driven your car hard then you should drive in a "cool down" manner....low load relaxed driving. If your turbo isn't visibly glowing then it's probably safe to turn off the car.
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Hillbilly Turbo Timer:Get a Bunch of CD's and put them on the passenger seat...Drive like a complete Friggin A-hole..cut off that Bus,Hit that Honda.Yah!!,you got it!!!..Go man,go!!
.Get that Turbo Nice and HOT!
Arrive at your destination,Keep the car running!..
Now,All your Cd's should be tossed all over the floor and under the passenger seat,so it will take you at least 2 minutes to retrieve them.
.Pick them UP and place them place on the seat..this step is called "reloading the Turbo timer"..
..all accounted for?..did you get the Elton John sings Metallica from way,way under?..GOOD!
You should notice that your engine has cooled down a bit, your "Turbo Timer" has completed it's cycle.So you can Shut down and go in and have a beer.
See?..that didn't cost you anything from EBAY!
.Get that Turbo Nice and HOT!
Arrive at your destination,Keep the car running!..
Now,All your Cd's should be tossed all over the floor and under the passenger seat,so it will take you at least 2 minutes to retrieve them.
.Pick them UP and place them place on the seat..this step is called "reloading the Turbo timer"..
..all accounted for?..did you get the Elton John sings Metallica from way,way under?..GOOD!
You should notice that your engine has cooled down a bit, your "Turbo Timer" has completed it's cycle.So you can Shut down and go in and have a beer.
See?..that didn't cost you anything from EBAY!
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