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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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tension bolt 0-rings

ok so i just assembled my s4tii motor and i put the o-rings on after the washer for the tension bolts. could this cause any problems? ie coolant seepage?
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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yes, they will get ripped and destroyed if you put them on under the bolt head.

find a good one that survived and take it to a hardware store and get some replacements.

if any were damaged they will cause a slow leak from the tension bolt(s).

replace them one at a time so as to not allow the block to lose tension.
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by driften16
ok so i just assembled my s4tii motor and i put the o-rings on after the washer for the tension bolts. could this cause any problems? ie coolant seepage?
I would say yes. But it sounds like you are using some sort of aftermarket rig, I've seen the ones that use separate o-rings and I'm not a big fan of them, the OEM washers are all 1 piece and you'd never have this problem with them.
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probably rotary aviation seals. i have used similar of my own doing but you have to follow instruction.
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under the bolt head? i put the o-ring on last, so the washer sits flat on the bolt .Name:  Untitled.png
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i did it like this because of what you mentioned above, but then i read and the instructions said to put the o-ring before the washer
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
probably rotary aviation seals. i have used similar of my own doing but you have to follow instruction.
Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of anything RA. Too many off-the-shelf mcmaster-carr orings to suit me.
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of anything RA. Too many off-the-shelf mcmaster-carr orings to suit me.
true but in retrospect i have had too many OEM seals fail to say either is better. i am a firm believer in viton seals with that said.

don't dis my McM account! OEM is far more suited to the DIYer first time builder, replacements take a little different approach but do work better in my experience, with some exceptions(the OEM tension washer for example are a hard to beat design).

had a 12A dowel seal leak in a short time? coolant seal evaporate when taking a block back apart for some stupid mistake? oil seals last beyond a single time use? yep, not cheap hiccups. those encapsulated coolant seals are also an exception, i only use them on race motors that are torn apart frequently yet they use them in aviation? ugh. they usually only last a few years of itching in street driven cars(heat cycling). maybe they last much longer in those engines that are heat cycled only a few times for very long trips.

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under the bolt head? i put the o-ring on last, so the washer sits flat on the bolt .
i did it like this because of what you mentioned above, but then i read and the instructions said to put the o-ring before the washer
if the blue is the o-ring then that is correct and you should be fine. original post sounded backwards in relation.

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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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awesome thanks for helping me clear that up guys
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