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Old May 20, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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does it matter if the piping is going to be 2.5"?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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wow don't know how I saw yalls posts but thats awesome! Thanks both of yall! I just put the bid up for the piping with tbolt clamps and reinforced silicone couplers. Hey Trav do you have any pics of the intercooler itself mounted? Thanks. I'm off to go read ilike2eatricers thread. Thanks again.

edit: is this intercooler too big? Also do I want a 2.5 or a 3" inlet and outlet? Thanks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18x12...67247345QQrdZ1

is that the intercooler you used trav?
No, not exactly... This is the one I bought.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=8045980533

Also one of those pics above has a cardboard box in it, that's the IC -- but if you go to my build-up thread, there are a few more pics. Most are a little hard to see, but should give you the idea if you read the descriptions... Thread is in the link in my sig in my earlier post.

Also, from what I've been able to gather, 2.5" pipe is good enough for well over 400hp and even beyond 500hp I believe. IMO 3" is probably just overkill and will be more of a pain to route. Do some searches, I think you'll find quite a number of cars with great HP numbers running 2.5" -- that's why I settled on 2.5"
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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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i run a Blackstone IC out of a Saab 9000, mounted in front of the radiator the piping is simple and short and the intake temps are much lower than the stock TMIheater(yes i know my radiator needs to be pitched in the can, next upgrade to come).

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Old May 20, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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I know, I still owe you that radiator, lol. I tried getting it fixed but they said they couldn't cause they where afraid of melting the fins??? Anyways if you still want it I'll sell it to you for 100 shipped. Oh yeah I'll get some pics up.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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No, not exactly... This is the one I bought.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=8045980533

Also one of those pics above has a cardboard box in it, that's the IC -- but if you go to my build-up thread, there are a few more pics. Most are a little hard to see, but should give you the idea if you read the descriptions... Thread is in the link in my sig in my earlier post.

Also, from what I've been able to gather, 2.5" pipe is good enough for well over 400hp and even beyond 500hp I believe. IMO 3" is probably just overkill and will be more of a pain to route. Do some searches, I think you'll find quite a number of cars with great HP numbers running 2.5" -- that's why I settled on 2.5"
I just don't know if that intercooler would be big enough for a t70, what do yall think?

I'm thinking this kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FMIC-...QQcmdZViewItem it's not quite as long as the greddy intercooler so I shouldn't have to cut as much. but I'm worried about the 4" thick core? Thoughts?

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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:21 AM
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4" thick core is massive, that will create a bit of turbo lag but will support higher HP numbers, the one above would work but it isn't quite as wide as i would like.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:27 AM
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Yea I'd definately go for more surface area. Something similar to a greddy 2 row dimensions or 3 row if you are a little more ambitious.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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one thing I don't want is turbo lag! I've got this t70 comming in with a .81 hotside to reduce the lag of this turbo. Maybe I'll go with the same dimensions yet with a 3" thick core. better?
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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[QUOTE=Trav;5664990]My setup:
143.01 -- Bar & plate IC (450mm X 300mm X 76mm -- 3" thick)
46.80 -- 3 to 2.5" Silicone reducers (2)
135.99 -- 2.5" Pipe kit (silicone connectors and t-bolts included)
9.98 -- 3" T-Bolts (2)
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$335.78 -- Total cost

I like that a lot. I just bought a core almost identical yours but , I'm looking at these e-bay pipe kits and there are the couple different ones. I seeing the kits with the three different bends (45', 75' and 90' bends), they come with two straight pipes as well plus the t-clamps and all that but the pipes are 18" sections. Is this what you used.

I just bought a kit with the 18" bends and straight pipes, t-bolts, connectors and all that so we'll see. Where did you mount your BOV? I had my Blitz SS between the turbo and the TMIC before I guess I could just keep it there huh?

Any more real specific info on this would be appreciated. In the end it'll just come down to taking time to fit in all in there but I'd apreciate any tips.

Thanks so much. I'll post pics and details when it's done.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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everyone is blowing couplers, lol. what are people doing to combat this?
I like to weld two small brackets at each coupling, and then bolt them together. The hose seals the pipe, and the brackets keep the pipe from separating longitudinally. Cheap and extremely effective.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 03:28 AM
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IM in the process of fitting one right now. I brought a 600x300 x76mm Bar and plate core. Without cutting anything it fits ok, u did remove the latch support and relocated the light relays etc and i bent the PS cooler lines down a bit to make more room. I have a lip on my front bumper and it sits level with it on the bottom as the end tanks hit the Chassis rails. If i did it again i would get a slightly shorter one maybe 560-580 long as then it would sit up a bit more. Pipe should be a breeze. I have moved my Primary coils up a bit so the twpo top bolts are now the two bottom ones. Hopefully this way i can run the piping between the Battery and the coils and under the PS pump or between it. note 2.25" piping will fit between the pump and the strut towet but nother bigger as it is already a tight fit.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 04:06 AM
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hey man i'm just installing a homebrew frontmount right now and i'll post up pics soon... but heres a little laundry list for ya. oh and a teaser pic
core:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVE...QQcmdZViewItem
piping:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-Tur...ayphotohosting
for that piping kit i just ordered two extra pipes, and the appropriate amount of couplers and clamps... that seller was really good. now i'm routing it like the orange car
then i got a greddy throttle elbow, and the silicone reducers i needed. i don't have a/c, or p/s, or windshield wiperfluid for the front, and i had to relocate my battery but its going to be slick. seems the cheaper you want to go the more direct the routing has to be, meaning the more stuff you have to get out of the way.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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Scathcart that is something easy I never thought of. If I have problems with mine (even though they are bead rolled) I'll definatley give it a go. Here is how I did mine.






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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Bigger piping just makes it spool slower.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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I went with a 28.5x5.5x2.5 for a total of $400.

I think you'll need something slightly taller but at least 3" thick.

What I want to hear from you is whether or not it is worth investing in a tall core (tall enough for 1/4 to 1/2 of the IC is above the front opening (no air going to it.)

The setup above worked great on the stock turbo but I am not sure if it's enough for the BNR stage 2 and I don't know if a HUGE core is efficient since no air is passing through. Right?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
I went with a 28.5x5.5x2.5 for a total of $400.

I think you'll need something slightly taller but at least 3" thick.

What I want to hear from you is whether or not it is worth investing in a tall core (tall enough for 1/4 to 1/2 of the IC is above the front opening (no air going to it.)

The setup above worked great on the stock turbo but I am not sure if it's enough for the BNR stage 2 and I don't know if a HUGE core is efficient since no air is passing through. Right?
David moore is using that size i do believe, he has a stage 2, but he's switching to a stage 1 due to the incredibly ridiculous amount of turbo lag.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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hondahater...how did you attach that turbo blanket?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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hondahater, did you have to cut anything on the frame?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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come on guys i want to see more pix!!!!!!! help me out i just got one from jap idk the name of it but its 24x12x3
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
hondahater...how did you attach that turbo blanket?
lol, it's just sitting on there now but will using safety wire to hold it on as soon as I get around to it. Still at the point where I"m installing my fuel cell and wiring upt he microtech.

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hondahater, did you have to cut anything on the frame?
no, but I did have to make some holes using a 3" hole saw. One of the holes where drilled where the stock windshield wiper fluid bottle was and the other is in the same location but on the other side.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
I went with a 28.5x5.5x2.5 for a total of $400.

I think you'll need something slightly taller but at least 3" thick.

What I want to hear from you is whether or not it is worth investing in a tall core (tall enough for 1/4 to 1/2 of the IC is above the front opening (no air going to it.)

The setup above worked great on the stock turbo but I am not sure if it's enough for the BNR stage 2 and I don't know if a HUGE core is efficient since no air is passing through. Right?
I'm wondering this about the core I bought, 27x12x3 similar to Trav's, from the looks of it there's gonna be adecent portion of the core behind the stock bumper. Now I don't physically have my intercooler in my hands yet so i can't just go stick it in there but I'm curious. We might be able to mount it low enough that the majority gets fresh air, then maybe some shrouding to redirect cold air as well.

I also happen to have an aftermarket front bumper that has a larger opening, I wasn't sure if I was going to put the body kit on this one or the GXL but if it's needed for the FMIC then that might happen.

My original intentions were to just get the BNR Stage 1 and shoot for a solid 10psi, do you think there will still be lag with this core? I'm not familar with sizing intercoolers and custom turbo stuff, so I'd appreciate any info. Thanks
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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how do u guys make the holes to fit the piping thru so neat?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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well I didn't experience any lag with mine but then again yours is more than double the height of mine.

Maybe if you mount it at an angle similar to the Radiator angle you might get the air to hit more surface area but I don't know if the extra weight/complexity of brackets and crap will be worth it.

You can always cut up your bumper.

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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
Scathcart that is something easy I never thought of. If I have problems with mine (even though they are bead rolled) I'll definatley give it a go. Here is how I did mine.






Which core is that? It looks like it fits nicely for some 90 degree bends making the most of the space if you can get airflow to all of that. Looks a lot like the Greddy size.
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