still not fast enough...
#1
still not fast enough...
Mods:
K+N cone filter, TID, removed secondary throttle plates
s5 Turbocharger, NO boost control, 5PSI in 1st, 7PSI in 2nd, 10PSI in 3rd (7 at redline), 11-12 psi in 4th and 5th.
3" exhaust, 3" straight through mufflers
720CC injectors, Apexi S-AFC (set stock across the board except after 3000RPM in the WOT map where it's set at +15%
FCD
anyways, it's still too slow.
what do I do now?
K+N cone filter, TID, removed secondary throttle plates
s5 Turbocharger, NO boost control, 5PSI in 1st, 7PSI in 2nd, 10PSI in 3rd (7 at redline), 11-12 psi in 4th and 5th.
3" exhaust, 3" straight through mufflers
720CC injectors, Apexi S-AFC (set stock across the board except after 3000RPM in the WOT map where it's set at +15%
FCD
anyways, it's still too slow.
what do I do now?
#6
New Project on the Way...
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Originally Posted by ForsakenRX7
Get A Boost Controller
do not get a boost controller to raise boost on the stock turbo!
You will not get much more power out of your car with a boost controller.
You will however have the boost come on quicker. but using the boost controller to raise the boost to over 12psi which is what he is getting isn't going to net him any more power infact it will only lead to a premature ending to his turbocharger. and it will simply heat the intake charge more than charging it (compressing)
In short the boost controller in this situation would just allow the boost to come on quicker!
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#10
spending too much money..
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I agree with sonic rat! also hybrids are not pieces of ****! I don't know how fast you want to go but with my hybrid and my "pos" piggy back with an rtek 1.7 my car hawls ***! I could easily beat just about anything on the streets (not including z06 and vipers). There are plenty of people with hybrid turbos that can vouch for them!
#11
Originally Posted by Terrh
Mods:
K+N cone filter, TID, removed secondary throttle plates
s5 Turbocharger, NO boost control, 5PSI in 1st, 7PSI in 2nd, 10PSI in 3rd (7 at redline), 11-12 psi in 4th and 5th.
3" exhaust, 3" straight through mufflers
720CC injectors, Apexi S-AFC (set stock across the board except after 3000RPM in the WOT map where it's set at +15%
FCD
anyways, it's still too slow.
what do I do now?
K+N cone filter, TID, removed secondary throttle plates
s5 Turbocharger, NO boost control, 5PSI in 1st, 7PSI in 2nd, 10PSI in 3rd (7 at redline), 11-12 psi in 4th and 5th.
3" exhaust, 3" straight through mufflers
720CC injectors, Apexi S-AFC (set stock across the board except after 3000RPM in the WOT map where it's set at +15%
FCD
anyways, it's still too slow.
what do I do now?
#13
This member wants more power. Why not do it right and go standalone and a nice Garrett GT series turbo? But the building block of any car is the EMS. You can say all the bullshit you want and try to talk around it and use piggy backs and all types of other crap all you want but at the end of the day Standalone is the way to go.
#14
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
This member wants more power. Why not do it right and go standalone and a nice Garrett GT series turbo? But the building block of any car is the EMS. You can say all the bullshit you want and try to talk around it and use piggy backs and all types of other crap all you want but at the end of the day Standalone is the way to go.
#15
Originally Posted by Bukwild
This member wants more power. Why not do it right and go standalone and a nice Garrett GT series turbo? But the building block of any car is the EMS. You can say all the bullshit you want and try to talk around it and use piggy backs and all types of other crap all you want but at the end of the day Standalone is the way to go.
GT 35r/GT 40 = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
He wants a quick car, not a fire breathing, earth shaking, roll cage wielding super car. A hybrid turbo with a piggy back can easily support 285-300rwhp, which would result in a relatively quick car that should be trapping around 110 or higher.
#16
no way 300rwhp safely with a ecu chip and stock air flow. Not to mention 300rwhp with a top mount? You can buy a EMS system for 1100-1500 dollars or you can get a rebuild for about the same. Its up to user.
#17
trapping 110-120MPH would ROCK. That's my goal.
gsracer, you hit the nail on the head.
And yeah, I want to avoid spending buckets of money on this...
What's a hybrid turbo cost to have built?
I might go to the rtek chip for the better timing control, and just use my S-AFC
I don't know what the a/f ratios are, I'm going to book some dyno time as soon as I can.
I hear a strange popping noise at high RPM in 4th and 5th that concerns me, and that's with 94 octane and the 720s set like that.
HOPEFULLY it's pig rich, but I want to make SURE.
gsracer, you hit the nail on the head.
And yeah, I want to avoid spending buckets of money on this...
What's a hybrid turbo cost to have built?
I might go to the rtek chip for the better timing control, and just use my S-AFC
I don't know what the a/f ratios are, I'm going to book some dyno time as soon as I can.
I hear a strange popping noise at high RPM in 4th and 5th that concerns me, and that's with 94 octane and the 720s set like that.
HOPEFULLY it's pig rich, but I want to make SURE.
#18
Originally Posted by Bukwild
no way 300rwhp safely with a ecu chip and stock air flow. Not to mention 300rwhp with a top mount? You can buy a EMS system for 1100-1500 dollars or you can get a rebuild for about the same. Its up to user.
What do you think fc owners did 10 years ago when there were nop aftermarket EMS options? There are a variety of ways to achieve 300rwhp. None will be as effective and offer the throttle response and non WOT smoothness, no one is debating that. AIC's, safc's, and even carbs with locked dizzy's are all capable of supporting that kind of power.
For 1500 you can buy an AIC, cleaned 550's, a hybrid turbo, and an old greddy/hks front mount kit. Timing can be retarded at the CAS if that becomes a valid concern.
trapping 110-120MPH would ROCK. That's my goal.
Last edited by gsracer; 11-22-04 at 03:09 PM.
#20
car is lightened as much as I'm willing to do, weighs 2700LB with 1/4 tank of gas.
that's with a/c and p/s intact, this is a daily driver, I'm not losing those.
why rebuild?
I paid $150 for this motor and it runs fine, when I blow it up I've got 2 s5 TII cores that I'll turn into a solid motor, but I don't forsee this one going in the next year or two.
what about water injecton/water spray systems for the intercooler?
it's pretty cool up here, temperatures are rarely in the 90's even in mid summer.
that's with a/c and p/s intact, this is a daily driver, I'm not losing those.
why rebuild?
I paid $150 for this motor and it runs fine, when I blow it up I've got 2 s5 TII cores that I'll turn into a solid motor, but I don't forsee this one going in the next year or two.
what about water injecton/water spray systems for the intercooler?
it's pretty cool up here, temperatures are rarely in the 90's even in mid summer.
#21
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as far as water injection some people use it rather than a front mount and seem to be doing good like that! I like less hassle. Less hassle to me is not having to refill the water every fillup plus if I forgot to do it once bam there goes the motor and I am pretty forgetfull. I would love water injection my self with my front mounted intercooler that way it would be added protection plus if I forgot one fill up I would still be protected.
#22
Do a barrel roll!
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
no way 300rwhp safely with a ecu chip and stock air flow. Not to mention 300rwhp with a top mount? You can buy a EMS system for 1100-1500 dollars or you can get a rebuild for about the same. Its up to user.
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Correct, proper tuning on a piggyback (along with the proper REQUIREMENTS, such as fuel, injectors/etc) will do just fine. Christ I'm running 17psi on my 6port (n/a) s4 block using the N/A ecu and an s-afc with a BNR hybrid. Guess what, no dead motor for me! (surprising though considering it's got 180k miles on it and counting!)
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
no way 300rwhp safely with a ecu chip and stock air flow. Not to mention 300rwhp with a top mount? You can buy a EMS system for 1100-1500 dollars or you can get a rebuild for about the same. Its up to user.