Standalone or no?
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Standalone or no?
Allright.. I'm not sure what I should do here...
The following parts are going on my car:
downpipe (3") midpipe (?") catback (2.5" to 2" dual)
I want to do something intakewise, not sure 100% what yet
MORE BOOST probably 12PSI
water injection - fmic's are evil
680cc secondaries, maybe bigger..
I've been thinking alot about getting a megasquirt ECU and a dizzy to run it all...
but would it be reasonable to do it on a stock ECU and an SAFC? or would the standalone be the better course of action?
The following parts are going on my car:
downpipe (3") midpipe (?") catback (2.5" to 2" dual)
I want to do something intakewise, not sure 100% what yet
MORE BOOST probably 12PSI
water injection - fmic's are evil
680cc secondaries, maybe bigger..
I've been thinking alot about getting a megasquirt ECU and a dizzy to run it all...
but would it be reasonable to do it on a stock ECU and an SAFC? or would the standalone be the better course of action?
It's a totally different animal going with a standalone EMS. You will have full adjustability of everything which Is unparrell with a S-AFC.
Why mess around with 13yr old technology and tinker with a S-AFC? Mind you, I'm not knocking anyone whom does this, but It just seems to me that It Is a great addition to suggest this, considering your actual thinking about to go with the standalone EMS and knowing all It's Implications that encompass It, respectively. It's what I did.
Why mess around with 13yr old technology and tinker with a S-AFC? Mind you, I'm not knocking anyone whom does this, but It just seems to me that It Is a great addition to suggest this, considering your actual thinking about to go with the standalone EMS and knowing all It's Implications that encompass It, respectively. It's what I did.
IMO, you should go with an ems if you plan on running more than 12psi. The stock ECU only has timing maps for up to 8psi. 8psi maps are very agressive at 12+psi.
I know many people run safc, and high boost with out blowing up. However, if a standalone saves your motor just once, it just paid for it's self
I know many people run safc, and high boost with out blowing up. However, if a standalone saves your motor just once, it just paid for it's self
Go stand alone if you:
#1 Can, or have someone local who is willing to tune you car.
#2 If you do not have someone local familiar with they system you purchase, are willing to travel to have the car tuned.
Latley there are alot of people (esp since the MT craze here in the US) that are getting standalones and getting in over their heads pretty fast. Just be careful, and make sure you are ready for that step.
#1 Can, or have someone local who is willing to tune you car.
#2 If you do not have someone local familiar with they system you purchase, are willing to travel to have the car tuned.
Latley there are alot of people (esp since the MT craze here in the US) that are getting standalones and getting in over their heads pretty fast. Just be careful, and make sure you are ready for that step.
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Re: Standalone or no?
Originally posted by Terrh
....water injection - fmic's are evil
....water injection - fmic's are evil
Definatly go with a standalone though, personally i'd urge you to get a more readily tunable one, such as a microtech. Not too many dyno places would know how to tune a megasquirt just yet..

Thats just my humble little opinion though.
White_FC, why do you always think your answer might not be right? just admit it.. you know your ****...
anywho.. i am having a tough time finding a good dyno tuner around here that knows what they're doing when it comes to MT.
if you have the money, then do it. Lord knows i would.
anywho.. i am having a tough time finding a good dyno tuner around here that knows what they're doing when it comes to MT.
if you have the money, then do it. Lord knows i would.
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I was thinking about this more and I'm STILL iffy on the idea.. I really think that a megasquirt sounds like a great idea, but if I can get the stock EMS to work 100% right and do the job, then why not just use it?
also.. I wanted to stay away from the FMIC but I found a way to mount it without cutting the car in any way shape or form, so that's what I'm going to do...
12PSI = limit for stock turbo, right?
I was thinking about this more and I'm STILL iffy on the idea.. I really think that a megasquirt sounds like a great idea, but if I can get the stock EMS to work 100% right and do the job, then why not just use it?
also.. I wanted to stay away from the FMIC but I found a way to mount it without cutting the car in any way shape or form, so that's what I'm going to do...
12PSI = limit for stock turbo, right?
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