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08-03-05, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by El Nene 7
i am thinking of getting one and possibly a fmic if it does better use than the stock mani and over top intercooler why not
Save up a buy something that actually will work (HKS, Greddy, Spearco, and various others for example).
08-03-05, 12:44 AM
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JAGER and let me guess you spent all this time and money to research and test wether an intercooler you "dont own" is better than a factory one who kindly supplied their" peice of **** manifold" for you do do this and what tests did you do to prove this it sounds like crap to me it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure your offering an opion on something you have not used or seen its bull **** coments like this that stop people tring products how is any company going to make money to further develop their products if no one will buy them cause they listen to crap like this
08-03-05, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by savana
JAGER and let me guess you spent all this time and money to research and test wether an intercooler you "dont own" is better than a factory one who kindly supplied their" peice of **** manifold" for you do do this and what tests did you do to prove this it sounds like crap to me it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure your offering an opion on something you have not used or seen its bull **** coments like this that stop people tring products how is any company going to make money to further develop their products if no one will buy them cause they listen to crap like this
08-03-05, 12:59 AM
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we should grab 2 cars from members here and do the comparison stock vs ssautochrome manifold and fmic then we will see if they are better than stock,just because it aint name brand dont mean its pos, theres car parts out there that cause 1000 bucks but if theres one that is 100 and works way better , **** i got 900 bucks lets get drunk and buy some ****** for everybody J/K lol
08-03-05, 01:07 AM
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i agree im not trying to say they are the best or not nescasarily even good i just want people to make descisions based on facts not someones idea or someone that heard their crap from a mates brothers friend and then decide to post saying yeah i used one or i tested one and its crap hey if its true post the proof we have nothing to lose by knowing the facts but everything to loose by listining to someone who isnt truthfull or is just offering their opion that its crap cause someone else who probably hasnt used one says they are crap everyone needs to get a mind of their own instead of listing to what others without facts say
08-03-05, 04:23 AM
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well there are a good number of people on here running them without problem. Alot of them dont jump up and post it in thier mod list because of all the BS name calling and stone throwing.
id say 15% the people saying they suck either owned or saw one of the old design ones fail. the other 85% of the people on here saying they suck are repeating what they heard from some guys roommate in some chatroom somewhere.
show me one person that has had a problem with the new thick flange ones. I have yet to see a pic of one... you figure if it broke they would take a pic so they could bitch on the internet about how much they suck.
now the people saying they are pretty good and have been running them for a year.... no one wants to listen to them....
Lets all listen to the asshat who saw one in a pic one time over the people who have one bolted on thier damn car as we argue about this same tired topic over and over in a new thread per week.
if you got a pair and are willing to take a chance to save some serious money then go for it. If you cant afford the chance that you might have to do it twice then do it "right" the first time. I took a a chance and im very happy with the result and the money left in my pocket.
if it lasts a year and cracks... ill buy another per year for 5 more years and still be on top.
id say 15% the people saying they suck either owned or saw one of the old design ones fail. the other 85% of the people on here saying they suck are repeating what they heard from some guys roommate in some chatroom somewhere.
show me one person that has had a problem with the new thick flange ones. I have yet to see a pic of one... you figure if it broke they would take a pic so they could bitch on the internet about how much they suck.
now the people saying they are pretty good and have been running them for a year.... no one wants to listen to them....
Lets all listen to the asshat who saw one in a pic one time over the people who have one bolted on thier damn car as we argue about this same tired topic over and over in a new thread per week.
if you got a pair and are willing to take a chance to save some serious money then go for it. If you cant afford the chance that you might have to do it twice then do it "right" the first time. I took a a chance and im very happy with the result and the money left in my pocket.
if it lasts a year and cracks... ill buy another per year for 5 more years and still be on top.
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08-03-05, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeperfc
if you got a pair and are willing to take a chance to save some serious money then go for it. If you cant afford the chance that you might have to do it twice then do it "right" the first time. I took a a chance and im very happy with the result and the money left in my pocket.
if it lasts a year and cracks... ill buy another per year for 5 more years and still be on top.
if it lasts a year and cracks... ill buy another per year for 5 more years and still be on top.
08-03-05, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
I knew someone who said that exact same thing about their wastegates.... Oh sure the wastegate was cheap to replace, but the engine that popped because of it wasn't.
was this when they first came out? carl made 506rwhp and he seems to be happy with his.
how did it fail? is this that same ole story about the guy who ripped the diaphram and the WG got stuck shut?
a side note... i plan to tune so a boost spike caused by any of the many reasons will kill timing and go full rich to save the motor.
08-03-05, 04:41 AM
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This is one I removed about 3 months ago. Not sure what the cause of failure was on it, the thing was pretty much seized in place, it took a hammer to finally get the door to open up, and it just stayed in the position we hammered it to. After that, the owner was feeling pretty shitty and tossed it and called it a day. (And after stripping the engine, pulling the block out, tearing it down, and so forth, I wasn't in a mood to argue about giving up!)
08-03-05, 04:46 AM
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To all the supporters, this is not about what works and what doesn't.
It's about supporting who does the R&D and who doesn't.
I don't want to rehash this (sensitive) subject, cause it's been overdone in the other sections many a times.
If you want to support knock-off artists that do zero R&D and all they do is copy someone else's work, then that's your perogative.
This is about economics - supply and demand.
To all the companies who pioneered the industry in developing cutting-edge products, they need to either cut their prices or close shop.
Unfortunately, some of them have closed shop - see SSR Japan.
If you keep supporting these SE Asian knock-off shops, then don't be surprised all the innovators close shop - all you going to end up is copy shops with no one to copy.
We'll see who ends up complaining...then take a good look at yourself.
-Ted
It's about supporting who does the R&D and who doesn't.
I don't want to rehash this (sensitive) subject, cause it's been overdone in the other sections many a times.
If you want to support knock-off artists that do zero R&D and all they do is copy someone else's work, then that's your perogative.
This is about economics - supply and demand.
To all the companies who pioneered the industry in developing cutting-edge products, they need to either cut their prices or close shop.
Unfortunately, some of them have closed shop - see SSR Japan.
If you keep supporting these SE Asian knock-off shops, then don't be surprised all the innovators close shop - all you going to end up is copy shops with no one to copy.
We'll see who ends up complaining...then take a good look at yourself.
-Ted
08-03-05, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
Well, they did find the perfect crowd. FC owners sure tend to be cheap!
08-03-05, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by savana
JAGER and let me guess you spent all this time and money to research and test wether an intercooler you "dont own" is better than a factory one who kindly supplied their" peice of **** manifold" for you do do this and what tests did you do to prove this it sounds like crap to me it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure your offering an opion on something you have not used or seen its bull **** coments like this that stop people tring products how is any company going to make money to further develop their products if no one will buy them cause they listen to crap like this
Guess what? I live in a Rice town, and take a guess where most of their FMIC units, intakes, and exhausts come from? Not to mention their turbos and front mounted intercoolers? You guessed it! SSAC and their groupie subcompanies. And I've been able to touch it, seen it on cars, and everything. And guess what? After two weeks most of their turbo related **** is fucked. Their manifolds DO crack. Their intercooler kit isn't to worse, but for the same money you can get much better. Like a spearco that can be had for 300 bucks + 100 more for piping! But with something as trivial as intercooling, why not spend the extra money and protect the engine of yours the BEST that you can?
So before you stick up for a company that steals and sells products that are most likely made by a 5 year old in Bosnia without any R&D, I think you should see first hand their BULLSHIT that they put out. I have, and its not pretty (I watched a mint FC lose his engine running their T-60 turbo kit
! 11,000 on a rebuild).Waste your money elsewhere. They don't do R&D, they don't care if your engine is fucked or not, after the paypal goes threw, they don't give a flying **** about you.
Also, don't make assumptions about what I've seen and what I haven't. And take sometime and search SSAC and their other ****, there yuo can see some manifolds that are obviously dicked up.
Good day
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08-03-05, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jager
Howdy!
Guess what? I live in a Rice town, and take a guess where most of their FMIC units, intakes, and exhausts come from? Not to mention their turbos and front mounted intercoolers? You guessed it! SSAC and their groupie subcompanies. And I've been able to touch it, seen it on cars, and everything. And guess what? After two weeks most of their turbo related **** is fucked. Their manifolds DO crack. Their intercooler kit isn't to worse, but for the same money you can get much better. Like a spearco that can be had for 300 bucks + 100 more for piping! But with something as trivial as intercooling, why not spend the extra money and protect the engine of yours the BEST that you can?
So before you stick up for a company that steals and sells products that are most likely made by a 5 year old in Bosnia without any R&D, I think you should see first hand their BULLSHIT that they put out. I have, and its not pretty (I watched a mint FC lose his engine running their T-60 turbo kit! 11,000 on a rebuild).
Waste your money elsewhere. They don't do R&D, they don't care if your engine is fucked or not, after the paypal goes threw, they don't give a flying **** about you.
Also, don't make assumptions about what I've seen and what I haven't. And take sometime and search SSAC and their other ****, there yuo can see some manifolds that are obviously dicked up.
Good day
Guess what? I live in a Rice town, and take a guess where most of their FMIC units, intakes, and exhausts come from? Not to mention their turbos and front mounted intercoolers? You guessed it! SSAC and their groupie subcompanies. And I've been able to touch it, seen it on cars, and everything. And guess what? After two weeks most of their turbo related **** is fucked. Their manifolds DO crack. Their intercooler kit isn't to worse, but for the same money you can get much better. Like a spearco that can be had for 300 bucks + 100 more for piping! But with something as trivial as intercooling, why not spend the extra money and protect the engine of yours the BEST that you can?
So before you stick up for a company that steals and sells products that are most likely made by a 5 year old in Bosnia without any R&D, I think you should see first hand their BULLSHIT that they put out. I have, and its not pretty (I watched a mint FC lose his engine running their T-60 turbo kit
! 11,000 on a rebuild).Waste your money elsewhere. They don't do R&D, they don't care if your engine is fucked or not, after the paypal goes threw, they don't give a flying **** about you.
Also, don't make assumptions about what I've seen and what I haven't. And take sometime and search SSAC and their other ****, there yuo can see some manifolds that are obviously dicked up.
Good day
I have used greddy IC in my old 7 and IS300, but I have never had an intercooler keep the temps as low, as their IC. So far no leaks( and I have pressure tested it) and no complaints. The only thing I didnt use, was their turbo. The hks wastegate I used to have creeped and I paid $450!!
I dont want to start ****, but Jager you are full of ****. If you can get something that will perform the same for alot less and choose not to because you want a certain name stamped onto the parts, then you are a fool.
08-03-05, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
I seen a rebuilt( bullet proof motor) blow on the dyno, with a $2000 turbo and custom manifold. What is your point? You can blow your motor with the stock turbo.
I have used greddy IC in my old 7 and IS300, but I have never had an intercooler keep the temps as low, as their IC. So far no leaks( and I have pressure tested it) and no complaints. The only thing I didnt use, was their turbo. The hks wastegate I used to have creeped and I paid $450!!
I dont want to start ****, but Jager you are full of ****. If you can get something that will perform the same for alot less and choose not to because you want a certain name stamped onto the parts, then you are a fool.
I have used greddy IC in my old 7 and IS300, but I have never had an intercooler keep the temps as low, as their IC. So far no leaks( and I have pressure tested it) and no complaints. The only thing I didnt use, was their turbo. The hks wastegate I used to have creeped and I paid $450!!
I dont want to start ****, but Jager you are full of ****. If you can get something that will perform the same for alot less and choose not to because you want a certain name stamped onto the parts, then you are a fool.
. Really! I don't mind. All the SSAC **** I've been around is still ****. Nothing like cracking manifolds and turbos glued together makes me wanna buy it.Calling me a fool since I buy products made by reputable companies? Ironic statement yo.
08-03-05, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
I seen a rebuilt( bullet proof motor) blow on the dyno, with a $2000 turbo and custom manifold. What is your point? You can blow your motor with the stock turbo.
I have used greddy IC in my old 7 and IS300, but I have never had an intercooler keep the temps as low, as their IC. So far no leaks( and I have pressure tested it) and no complaints. The only thing I didnt use, was their turbo. The hks wastegate I used to have creeped and I paid $450!!
I dont want to start ****, but Jager you are full of ****. If you can get something that will perform the same for alot less and choose not to because you want a certain name stamped onto the parts, then you are a fool.
I have used greddy IC in my old 7 and IS300, but I have never had an intercooler keep the temps as low, as their IC. So far no leaks( and I have pressure tested it) and no complaints. The only thing I didnt use, was their turbo. The hks wastegate I used to have creeped and I paid $450!!
I dont want to start ****, but Jager you are full of ****. If you can get something that will perform the same for alot less and choose not to because you want a certain name stamped onto the parts, then you are a fool.
08-03-05, 09:36 PM
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correct me if im wrong but arent turbonetics turbos just a garrett clone if so better start a new thread on how they are **** and do no r&d seams people are selective as for people posting about the cracked manifold and compressor cover let me guess they were your mates and you saw it happen get a mind of your own and stop listning to peoples bullshit like i said show me the proof and ill admit im wrong
08-03-05, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by savana
correct me if im wrong but arent turbonetics turbos just a garrett clone if so better start a new thread on how they are **** and do no r&d seams people are selective as for people posting about the cracked manifold and compressor cover let me guess they were your mates and you saw it happen get a mind of your own and stop listning to peoples bullshit like i said show me the proof and ill admit im wrong
08-04-05, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by savana
correct me if im wrong but arent turbonetics turbos just a garrett clone if so better start a new thread on how they are **** and do no r&d seams people are selective as for people posting about the cracked manifold and compressor cover let me guess they were your mates and you saw it happen get a mind of your own and stop listning to peoples bullshit like i said show me the proof and ill admit im wrong