Whuz up as you guys know I am almost completely done with a S5 Jspec T2 swap in my 88 GXL and also have the full T2 Drivetrain.....but anyway I have my Engine modded w/ removed Emissions and OMP, (knight sports)FCD, MBC(11-12 psi), S-AFC(good tuning), and K&N Intake Filter, and 3 1/8in Turbo Back Exhaust. SO my car will be considerably faster than a stock S5 T2 and I have never rode in a stock S4 or S5 T2.....how fast are they....I mean I hear they run high 14's stock...but what cars cn they really beat. If I was stock could I take GSR's(Integras), S2000's, or turbo eclipses and such.....I find it funny that I have never rode in one....my friends dont have any 7's except one who will be gettin a streetported S5 T2 next week. But how quick are they?

 

I've got an S4 turbo running about 7psi, stock motor, just rebuilt. When I bought the car the turbo was frozen, and I had never ridden in one. I bought a new turbo and got it working, I was somewhat dissapointed, I probably hyped myself up too much though.

 

Stock it's not REALLY fast, it's alright but nothing super special. This being stock everything, exhaust, intake, boost, etc. Some very simple mods can make them pretty quick, though.

 

yup, starting with exhaust and tuning you should notice a bit of an increase in power. you can pump them up fairly decent without a whole lot of work but i chose to streetport my engine while i had it out so the rest should be fairly easy and straightforward.

 

with my mods i think my car is ok fast. i know i can beat alot of v8s.

 

stock they are close to 200 hp at the e-shaft, that is probably about 160-170 at the rear wheels, not a whole lot but considering you can get them up close to 300 or more RWHP is something to take into consideration. on an n/a it is tough to break 200 RWHP, a reason i wouldn't trade my T2 for an n/a for anything.


of course if you went hairy crazy you could probably pull close to 900 RWHP out of a 13B

 

My stock TII (low compression and shaking engine @ 6k RPM's due to broken motor mount) beat a couple GSR Integra's. Both times I wouldn't start pulling 'til late in 4th gear. The same scenario happened against a 2002 Prelude SH. It was dead even until the top of my 4th gear, when I slowly started walking away.

I lost to more cars than I beat... BUT, a FRESH stock TII will beat most of the cars I lost to. The last race in that car was against an SVT Focus.. It was pretty even but he got the better jump, so...

My N/A beat most of my friends cars that I lost to originally in my TII.

My TII's almost done with fresh rebuild, streetport, TB and manifold porting, exhaust, intake and ^boost. The 7 won't lose... lol.

 

at 12psi with stock injectors and fuel pump it'll be fast for about 5 mins

I also find it funny that your S-afc has good tuning considing the car doesn't run. kinda hard to tune :/

 

i wondered about the tuning thing too but i guess it could mean he has a way to tune it when it is finished.

 

Funny...ive been running about 11-12 psi on my s5 turbo on an s4 block...stock injectors...NO SAFC, no nothing...still running stoich say my plugs and my shitty *** autometer AFR guage.

As far as what youll beat...lol, i beat integra type r's without efford, i eat talon tsi awd, eclipse, camaro z28 with lt1, Mustang gt hardtops. I ran 14.4 without the upgraded turbo, shitty tires, 6 lb of boost, **** suspension, etc etc...

Itll be quick.

Fast is 11 seconds and under.

 

12PSI with a MBC it could still be stoich, but technically if you have porting/exhaust/intake mods and dynoed it i doubt it would be stoich...

 

I have a very "GOOD" shop doing the entire swap...and yes they are in the process of working and tuning on the engine and S-AFC. I also do have a Cosmo 20B Fuel Pump installed as well. Depending on how the car runs and the engine does we may put 750cc secondaries on....just waiting to see how it drives first. And the car does run now....still doing some tuning on the S-AFC....so a stock S5 T2 is decently quick huh? Now my friend has a streetported S5 T2, w/ 2.5in catback exhaust, manual boost controller, FCD....you think he will be faster than me...? We are certainly goin to race and compare the two....My car has 14lb 17in lightweight Enkei wheels and spare removed and Aluminum T2 Hood. Whats the fastest time any of you guys pulled with your Stock T2's or the fastest car that you beat?

 

hard to say but the only thing i can think of that is holding you back is a streetport, your exhaust would very well compliment a streetport so you and your friend would probably be about even, if you had a streetport done you could take him easily.

 

Umm "points up"

didnt i pretty much sum it up?


i dynoed my car at 194 hp at the wheels and i beat those cars. I havent raced anybody since i put the s5 turbo on...and now im running 11 psi as opposed to 6. I think i can torch some serious cars now, im hoping for atleast 13.9 in quarter

 

Man at 11psi and considering you have a good suspension and other mods to compliment your turbo (free flowing exhaust, intake filter) you should certainly run better than a 13.9. I mean w/ a good 60' time you should get mid 13's. With my setup I and drag slicks w/ a good 2.0 60' time or better I will get some low 13's...may take a few trys but it will be attainable. On just straight up street tires...I say I may get 13.3-13.6 in the 1/4....but we will soon find out....I want to drive a stock T2 so bad...just so I cn see the difference when mine is finished...LOL

 

No, he shouldn't. That's perfectly fine for a stock turbo.

 

Yeah you are right....I didnt know he was fully stock...I was thinking that mybe he had other mods...but yeah I guess if he has no other mods...then thats GOOD....

 

Dont forget, i am in calgary ab...which is a high altitude. Im spposed to run about 1 full second slower than somebody at a low altitude. But mid 13s....its attainable. I ran 14.4 with SHITTY reaction times, being it was my first time at an actual track (im raised a street racer)

my reaction time was like 1.6 or something

i was waiting for green, then running.

 

Oh, and im not completely stock

i have 2 3/4 inch exhaust from the turbo back, no emissions at all, fd fuel pump, s5 turbo, wastegate porting. hehe.

close enuff to stock tho. I think i MAY have a realtek. Im really confused. I dont have a FCD but, at 11 lbs (no creep, it holds there) i dont get fuel cut. I dont know why. there is for sure no fuel cut defenser anywhere on my car.

 

I could only imagine what a solid 11psi would feel like....LOL But yeah you should certainly be gettin a fuel cut well below 11psi....but looks like you arent so mybe you do have a Realtek. You said you have the S5 Turbo right??? Are you running the single wastegate for the S4 or the dual for the S5? And how much better is the S5 wastegate?

 

i didn't see where it said he was bone stock so i asked but i guess it is.

 

If you have an s5 turbo you have the dual flappers. The s4 turbo has single flapper. The difference is, the s4 would try to vent one path thru one hole, the new turbo vents both paths thru two holes, much more efficient.

 

the S4 is also a twin scroll system, it is hard to compare the two unless you look at the whole picture.

 

Yeah I am glad that I went with the S5 instead...but the rotors are better in the S4 I hear. They have a 8:5 compression to the S5 9:1 compression right. But they are also heavier than the S5 rotors. What rpm do you S5 turbo guys begin to boost by? About 2500rpm I would guess.

 

which gear?

im pretty sure in my s4 (mods in sig) i get like 7 lbs in 1st by 3500-4000. first gear is pretty quick so it doesnt get a chance to boost, but in higher gears you will see full boost boost around 3000-3500 and in 4/5 gear i see full by 3k