rx_7_driver

Basicly its what the title says, i am sick of my vert and i want a coupe agian. So i am asking is would it be possible to buy a coupe(s5 of course), with what they call a rolling body, (no engine r tranny) and swap everything over, from the vert to the coupe? I am pretty sure all most all the parts r interchangeable, like engine, interior, exterior (except like the top and doors). what do u think should i attempt this r just put the vert up forsale and try to find and good s5 coupe?


-Shawn (coments are always welcomed)

goblues24

im shocked..but i can understand your interest...you probly want more performance? perfect scenario might be to put up the vert for sale to see what you might get for it..all the while keep pricing some coupes. ive owned rx coupes and curently have a vert..i would never go back to a coupe unless it was a really nice tii...but would rather have a really nice tii vert!! start looking around now and price things every week to get an idea how the market is fluxuating as far as price. the most important thing is probly to be very patient so you get what your looking for at a good price. maybe set a time limit that allows 4 or 5 months to research some of the coupes out there for sale. you have a car that is a pretty good interest for some people..the vert is a sought after ride. i think you should sit back and think about exactly why you dont like the vert. and see if a coupe can really make you happier. the sunroof is nothing compared to dropping the top!!

good luck!!

rx_7_driver

i know what i want, i use to own a 87 se, and traded it for the vert +plus 2500, the reasion y i did it is because the 87 was shot, need new motor soon, tranny needed rebuilt, interior was shot, and had bad injectors, it was the best deal i could get and still have a Rx-7, cause i will never go back to piston now, i love these cars to much, even if it means keeping the vert to stay away from another piston motor. Cause everyone i owned, the engine blew and now i don't trust them anymore.

Also can anyone else add to what can and can't be swaped


-Shawn

FCdemon

Your best bet is probably to sell the vert and just buy a coupe.. go for an 88 GTU or a 89+ GTUs if you can find one!

Bambam7

I sent you a PM.... I'm looking for a rolling vert chassis to swap my mechanicals into.
I have a very nice S5 GXL chassis with lotsof extras you might be interested in... Same year.. 1990 GXL... 5 spd. 99K miles... Loaded, adj. susp w/spare shocks... etc...
Sounds like this could benefit both of us.

I hear you BTW... Vert N/A's are sooo slow, (but nice) cars.. but not the pure soul of an RX-7......

rx_7_driver

ther is one problem your location we r kinda far apart to do this

vaughnc

here's my recommended solution:

Bambam7

Well, I'm going to be heading to Florida sometime in the next month....
If you are interested, I can make arrangements... it's really not hard to rip the engine and tranny out. It takes maybe 4-5 hours.
Like I said- let's talk.


What were you looking at swapping into a coupe from your vert anyways?

vaughnc

my question too. My vert's got lots of zippity zoom zoom, but you can't blow away cars (like with the TII) without winding the NA engine out.

She's plenty fast for me though.

rx_7_driver

well i was thinking about buy a S5 rolling coupe (with no engine r tranny) for real cheap and doing the swap at school, being this is my daily driver, you did get my attention though about swaping bambam7 i will pm u back and we can go from there


-Shawn

No7Yet

I've got an 89 TII that I want to swap into a rolling vert chassis. I'm in Tallahasse. We need each others' cars, Shawn!

Brandon

rx_7_driver

damn i didn't realize how many people want a ******* vert chassie


-Shawn (i have gotton more pm's in the last 2 days than the hole time i have been on the form)

Bambam7

Heheh, wait till that looses 400 lbs!!! Then you'll like it!

rx_7_driver

ok i found a 88 for $300, is it possibl to do the swap with it being its a s4? my cpu and ecu should be able to swap in it and run the car, even though it dosen't have an air bag, r would i have to use its cpu and ecu?

-Shawn (going check out the car tomorrow)

Bambam7

Well, the AFM is different.. not sure if the wiring for that is different, but other stuff is.
The CPU is different, much faster in S5.
The TPS is a different one, dual plunger in S5 instead if single in S4.
Of course.. all the little cosmetic details that differ between s4 and 5..... (Like the nice interior!)

BlackRx7

okay, i'll trade you my s4 TII body for your very, keep your engine and tranny and so will l, I've always wanted a TTI vert, but if you realy want power find a junked TII steal the drive trian (tranny, driveshaft, rear end, half shafts and all) and buy your self a J-spec TII engine, alot of times there already modded!

rx_7_driver

well i was gonna pull the engine, engine harnest and ecu out of it and put the s5 one in it, will i need to change the cpu? i guess this also meani have to change the wireing harnest in the dash, i think i will just change the hole dash with harnest, cluster, wiring , ect.... will the drive shat outta mine line up with the diif in the s4? r will that have to be swaped also? i wanna be able to do this the fastest way possible, i did search but everyone cotradicts (sp?) each other, about what has to and what dosen't need to be swaped, could it be possible to remove the engine with the harnest still attactched to it?

-Shawn (mabe i will get lucky and the car (88) will run)

goblues24

hey sorry rx7 driver i misunderstood the point of your post. didnt know your reasons for having a vert..i just assumed you were like most of us who really really lusted after the vert..didnt know it was just something you had traded into, but as you can see there are alot of folks out there that want your ride.

so to get back on point i think your biggest problem with switching out from s4 and s5 is the wiring harnesses..i would bet that if you pm icemark he would have some good info on this for you!!

i do have to side with vaghnc and his reccomendation...2 rx7s are better than one..lol!

and for all the vert interested...there is a complete vert here in fla with a bad engine..from badass7(i think thats his name on trhe forum)..i met him tonight and he has his car listed in the for sale section.

good luck rx7driver things will be good for you. have you checked any yards yet?

rx_7_driver

there is only one yard with one rx-7 in it (black 88 ) that is stripped to nothing, no engine, tranny, hood, wing, rad, coils, seats, surpriseingly the afm is in the hatch with a fan, and intake platic ****. i am praying that this one i am going see tomorrow is in good shape and i can get it to run, i do agree to 2 7's r better than one. i am also hoping icemark, and reted see this thred and can help.

-Shawn

don't get me wrong though the vert is way better than my old 87 se, its just the 87 was dieing and i wanted a newer 7

BlackRx7

Sorry I thought you wanted a TII swap, everything will fit fine hence the drive shaft and what not, they are the same for S5 and S4, but putting an S5 engine in an S4 is a nono, just keep your S4 short block, get the S5 manifolds, port them nicely, and maybe get a TII endplate and intake manifold and brigde port it.......

rx_7_driver

why keep the s4 block? s5 make more ponies, i was also thinking of mabe just putting the s5 block in there and put all the s4 ***. on it (including front cover and mec. oil pump)

and no brigde porting lol mabe street porting but that would be it

care to explain y u said y not to put the s5 block in? (just wondering your reasons)

-Shawn (can't sleep)

rx_7_driver

btw i will never go to the dark side lol


-Shawn

SonicRaT

iTrader: (6)

Well, to set this straight, you can't plug and play a series 5 engine into a series4, or in reverse. A series 4 engine won't run for crap in a series 5 regraldess, due to the ECU maps. And just using the series 4 ecu is no easy task, as you have to change the dash harness and so forth (hah, good luck!) to be able to swap ECU's. Now if you want the series5 block in a series4, you have to slap on the series 4 intakes/front cover (or remove the electronic omp and block it off) and change injectors so that they match the series 4 harness. It's not an easy task, it's easier just to keep it within your series.