should I rebuild my calipers?
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should I rebuild my calipers?
Hey I have a 5 lug conversion sitting in my garage and will be putting it on my fc in about a month. Is there any reason I should rebuild the calipers? WHat can go wrong if I dont? How do I know if I need to?
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Caliper rebuild kit @ napa: $17
Reman Caliper @ napa: $29 - $6 core.
I'd trust the professionals to rebuild somethign that could save you, or someone elses life.
EDIT: If that wasn't clear, don't rebuild them, just get remans and give your old calipers to napa so they can rebuild them and sell them so someone else.
Reman Caliper @ napa: $29 - $6 core.
I'd trust the professionals to rebuild somethign that could save you, or someone elses life.
EDIT: If that wasn't clear, don't rebuild them, just get remans and give your old calipers to napa so they can rebuild them and sell them so someone else.
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Originally Posted by BklynRX7
How do I know if I need to?
with a quick visual inspection on the rubber seals/boots around the caliper its easy to tell if yours need to be replaced.
man, thats cheap for a rebuilt caliper?! is that the fronts or rears or both?
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rebuild them....easy and saves money. from the calipers ive gotten (from 2 dif companies; cardone and beck & arnley)....i wasnt all to impressed with rebuild calipers quality. i mean....sure....they were fine but im the kind of person who hates half *** jobs so. if you rebuild it.....u know exactly what was done and you get things how YOU want it. just because a company rebuilds calipers doesnt mean its better than doing it yourself. just my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by Kenteth
Caliper rebuild kit @ napa: $17
Reman Caliper @ napa: $29 - $6 core.
I'd trust the professionals to rebuild somethign that could save you, or someone elses life.
EDIT: If that wasn't clear, don't rebuild them, just get remans and give your old calipers to napa so they can rebuild them and sell them so someone else.
Reman Caliper @ napa: $29 - $6 core.
I'd trust the professionals to rebuild somethign that could save you, or someone elses life.
EDIT: If that wasn't clear, don't rebuild them, just get remans and give your old calipers to napa so they can rebuild them and sell them so someone else.
I think they marked the price wrong!
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is this the napa that were talking about?
http://www.napaonline.com
http://www.napaonline.com
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Originally Posted by Wankel7
You paid THAT for four piston calipers?
I think they marked the price wrong!
James
I think they marked the price wrong!
James
I bought single pots, 4pots are slightly more. But, I just did a quick check on aap site and... The below is for reman 4 pots without pads.
Cardone 191080 Reman.; Unloaded; Right; w/Normal Suspension; OE Metal Piston Lifetime Limited Warranty
Ships in 1 day
Weight: 7.2 lbs.
$32.99 $50.00 cor
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I cheked today b/c I need new ones. from orielys. $32 a pice from 4piston front adjustable suspention. $68 for rear all a pice. rebuild kit was $2
The hell with rebuilding them they allways leek. If you do anything just get remand ones.
The hell with rebuilding them they allways leek. If you do anything just get remand ones.
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If you want to check caliper conditions, push in on each piston. They should move in easily. The lower pistons have a tendency to freeze because of the sediment residing in the lower part of the caliper. The rears should turn in easily. If you find the pistons won't push in easily, or the rears won't turn in easily get rebuilt ones. I've rebuild numerous calipers. Pretty easy, but a little time consuming. At least you know it's been done correctly, and know the condition of the pistons and bores. The rears are tricky, just go with the rebuilt.
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to hell with rebuilding them?...no offence, but maybe u just cant rebuild them in the first place. what the heck do u think remans are. they arent brand new from mazda. they get cores from the absolute **** to the good and just check tolerances (dont even know about this actually, may just eye ball to see if it just looks good), replace all seals,boots, and other necessaries, even more for the back calipers.
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Originally Posted by limbar85
to hell with rebuilding them?...no offence, but maybe u just cant rebuild them in the first place. what the heck do u think remans are. they arent brand new from mazda. they get cores from the absolute **** to the good and just check tolerances (dont even know about this actually, may just eye ball to see if it just looks good), replace all seals,boots, and other necessaries, even more for the back calipers.
Seriously, you can rebuild the brake calipers. Its not *THAT* hard, but unless you know DAMN sure you know EXACTLY what you are doing, its too easy to **** it up and have your *** in a wall or worse another car hurting someone else. If you know exactly what you are doing because you went to SCHOOL for it, good, rebuild your own damn brakes, and heres mine, rebuild mine too. Because you would know how, and most people don't. If you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing however, do the responsible thing and get ones that you can trust won't fail when the car in front of you nails the brakes.
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Ok well to simplify my orginal question. The conversion came off a running car so i assume the brakes worked. How can I tell if they need a rebuild?
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Originally Posted by BklynRX7
Ok well to simplify my orginal question. The conversion came off a running car so i assume the brakes worked. How can I tell if they need a rebuild?
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Originally Posted by RXSevenSymphonies
What the hell? Last time I checked it's insanely easy to rebuild calipers...
On the other hand, if the reman calipers really are that cheap, id go for it too!
Ill pay an extra $10-20 to save myself an assload of time and effort, aside from professional quality.
I'm off to Napa this weekend! lol
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Originally Posted by Kenteth
your post lacks a point... Everyone knows thats what remans are. Personaly, I'd pay someone that knows and rebuilds these things for a living rather then have myself do it. Why? brakes are there to keep your *** out of a wall. I'll do my own engine mods because I'm not scared that if I **** up, i'll end up killing myself.
Seriously, you can rebuild the brake calipers. Its not *THAT* hard, but unless you know DAMN sure you know EXACTLY what you are doing, its too easy to **** it up and have your *** in a wall or worse another car hurting someone else. If you know exactly what you are doing because you went to SCHOOL for it, good, rebuild your own damn brakes, and heres mine, rebuild mine too. Because you would know how, and most people don't. If you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing however, do the responsible thing and get ones that you can trust won't fail when the car in front of you nails the brakes.
Seriously, you can rebuild the brake calipers. Its not *THAT* hard, but unless you know DAMN sure you know EXACTLY what you are doing, its too easy to **** it up and have your *** in a wall or worse another car hurting someone else. If you know exactly what you are doing because you went to SCHOOL for it, good, rebuild your own damn brakes, and heres mine, rebuild mine too. Because you would know how, and most people don't. If you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing however, do the responsible thing and get ones that you can trust won't fail when the car in front of you nails the brakes.
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Wow, it sure seems like the price of a front four piston rebuild has dropped substantially over the past few years....
Kenteth,
Have you ever rebuilt a FC brake caliper?
I have done it once...and I would it again. It is dirt simple and you would have to have interpersonal problems to screw it up.
Front calipers seem to cost over 100 bucks and a rebuild is much cheaper.
The hardest part is getting those pistons out of their bores.
The only situation I would agree with you is a COMPLETE rebuild of the rear caliper. That parking brake seal was a bitch and I left it since it wasnt leaking. I just did the piston seal and skirt. Our your calipers bores are so pitted you need to do something like turn it in for a rebuild
I am just sitting here trying to think what you could **** up.
You could forget to put the piston seal back in....but that would spray fluid on the bleeding. Or, you could nick the skirt open...and it would be a slow damaging of the piston seal as dirt got in there.
Or, your bore could look like the face of a 15 year old with more potmarks than a lunar surface . But if you miss that...it could be the interpersonal problems.
Or you could not secure the brake line but again that would be discovered in the bleeding.
It isn't like the piston is going to shoot out if you mess up. It realy dosent have anywhere to go.
Rebuilding the brakes is one of the easier jobs on the car. Removing rear subframe to do bushings makes rebuilding brakes look like trying to figure out how to open a happy meal toy. It is just a piston, seal, and a skirt.
James
Kenteth,
Have you ever rebuilt a FC brake caliper?
I have done it once...and I would it again. It is dirt simple and you would have to have interpersonal problems to screw it up.
Front calipers seem to cost over 100 bucks and a rebuild is much cheaper.
The hardest part is getting those pistons out of their bores.
The only situation I would agree with you is a COMPLETE rebuild of the rear caliper. That parking brake seal was a bitch and I left it since it wasnt leaking. I just did the piston seal and skirt. Our your calipers bores are so pitted you need to do something like turn it in for a rebuild
I am just sitting here trying to think what you could **** up.
You could forget to put the piston seal back in....but that would spray fluid on the bleeding. Or, you could nick the skirt open...and it would be a slow damaging of the piston seal as dirt got in there.
Or, your bore could look like the face of a 15 year old with more potmarks than a lunar surface . But if you miss that...it could be the interpersonal problems.
Or you could not secure the brake line but again that would be discovered in the bleeding.
It isn't like the piston is going to shoot out if you mess up. It realy dosent have anywhere to go.
Rebuilding the brakes is one of the easier jobs on the car. Removing rear subframe to do bushings makes rebuilding brakes look like trying to figure out how to open a happy meal toy. It is just a piston, seal, and a skirt.
James
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Im gonna try rebuilding them myself. Like stated above, if I do anything wrong itll show in the bleeding long before my life is risked. Does anyone know of a writeup about rebuilding the 4 piston calipers?