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Old 04-03-07, 09:54 PM
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Man how badly does this hurt your MPG? Lmao, I dunno what good flames can do.
Old 04-03-07, 10:24 PM
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what if my compression is a bit low? will that affect it in anyway? were not talking super low but mildly ( i know its mild only because i still have the same power output but occasionally i have crappy starts, although that may be because my vaccum hoses are shot)

but other than that, your saying just remove the cats and put a straight pipe, with no other tampering, and it can be done? what if i put a silencer or holow out a cat that way i can atleast pass a visual test? will that affect it?
Old 04-03-07, 10:28 PM
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Thank god for Alabama. We have laws for emissions but no way to enforce it. No yearly checks or anything, and Ive never heard of anyone being ticketed for no cats around here. Hell I ran my freinds T2 around here for a few days with no exhaust at all on it, just dp, and no cops ever turned to look.
Old 04-04-07, 10:41 AM
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I have a n/a with a racing beat road race (true dual) exhaust and stock mufflers and I cant shoot flames

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Old 04-04-07, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ishibubu
Man how badly does this hurt your MPG? Lmao, I dunno what good flames can do.
it's like a brand new paint job. it does nothing but looks pretty, costs alot of money....but again, it looks cool!
Old 04-04-07, 11:17 AM
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I got a ticket once and the cop noticed and looked under the car and seen no cat so he wrote me a ticket and said get your exhaust replaced and bring it when you pay off your ticket. So i just put the stock exhaust back on luckly I still had it. I then took it off and put back on the 3" turboback as soon as I got home lol.
Old 04-04-07, 11:18 AM
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in my last n/a i would only shoot flames if i drove it cold it will pop and if i had it a high rpm's it will do the same.....after i had a muffler fall out from the driver side it would pop occasionally..
Old 04-04-07, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberPitz
it's like a brand new paint job. it does nothing but looks pretty, costs alot of money....but again, it looks cool!
So it doesn't hurt it or it does? At first you make it sound like it doesn't then you said it costs alot of money.
Old 04-04-07, 02:00 PM
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Let me simplify things for you. If you get rid of your cats and run a straight pipe, you will shoot flames. A resonator will only deepen or change the exhaust note. If there is nothing hindering the flow of the exhaust, you will shoot flames.

When I was shooting flames, I had the stock header, a bonez straight pipte, and Apex GT spec exhaust. Popped flames all the time. Then I switched to Racing Beat header, but I put in a cat (for the aux port activation) and kept the same exhaust. No pops, no flames. I know if I punch out the cats, I'll be shooting flames again, but I'm over it.

Now as far as the police are concerned. CA officers are harsh on any kind of modified import vehicle, because the import scene is really big out here and there are a lot of youngins running around. Not to mention the smog. That's why emissions is a big deal out here. I've even heard that officers are setting up check points at freeway entrances with mobile smog check units down in San Diego.
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Originally Posted by Ishibubu
So it doesn't hurt it or it does? At first you make it sound like it doesn't then you said it costs alot of money.
popping at idle only serves a couple purposes.. it looks cool, its a conversation starter, and it scares people.

I didnt do anything special to make my car do this... just RB downpipe presilencer, and no mufflers. It runs rich, very rich, i get like 12mpg... my engine is on its last leg... 215k miles on stock build.

its not BAD for the car... its just bad when you only get 190 miles to a tank.
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Originally Posted by red_s5_fc3s
Now as far as the police are concerned. CA officers are harsh on any kind of modified import vehicle, because the import scene is really big out here and there are a lot of youngins running around. Not to mention the smog. That's why emissions is a big deal out here. I've even heard that officers are setting up check points at freeway entrances with mobile smog check units down in San Diego.
Yeah, they are talking about doing that here in sacramento as well. man.. i need a super stock geo metro type of car that gets 45mpg... and cops never look at.
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Originally Posted by reatrdedspleen
popping at idle only serves a couple purposes.. it looks cool, its a conversation starter, and it scares people.

I didnt do anything special to make my car do this... just RB downpipe presilencer, and no mufflers. It runs rich, very rich, i get like 12mpg... my engine is on its last leg... 215k miles on stock build.

its not BAD for the car... its just bad when you only get 190 miles to a tank.
Haha, sounds like my car...
:p Gotta fill up every week. D:
Old 04-04-07, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberPitz
Haha, sounds like my car...
:p Gotta fill up every week. D:
man, if only it was once a week! lol i fill up at least 3 times a week. i wouldn't mind having bad gas millage if gas wasn't 3something a gallon

I miss the days when it was only 78 cents a gallon! lol and i thought it was expensive then!
Old 10-13-07, 05:38 PM
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i have a turbo and if i took my cats off wouldnt that mess something up???
dont u have to have a certain amount of back pressure???
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I was at a cruise night here last summer and the traffic doesnt move hardly at all. There was this one ******* that thought riding my *** would get it to move faster though. I freereved it like 5 times to 8 grand shooting a flame evertime and he was only about half a foot away . I think it charred his bumper but couldnt tell. He was pissed. That was when it was n/a still though.
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Originally Posted by eagleheart
i have a turbo and if i took my cats off wouldnt that mess something up???
dont u have to have a certain amount of back pressure???
Go ahead and try it.
Make sure you have money for the new motor though.
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ND rocks, no noise ordinance in my town and no emissions. I run NO exhaust, I'm talking manifold and thats it. Its realy effing loud but this is hick country so the chicks like it.
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Why would taking the cats out make your motor blow??? From what I know the less backpressure on a turbo car the faster it spools. You dont need any for a turbo car.
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Go ahead and try it.
Make sure you have money for the new motor though.
Old 10-14-07, 12:42 AM
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everyone said it already... striaght pipe/ highflow bonez... maybe a header.. it gets boring after a while... i wanted to shoot flames for so long and when i did... i didn't like it as much... i love seeing it but dealing with the fumes was simply exhausting. hah
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You don't need any backpressure. Backpressure is bad. Period.

Except...the turbo will boost creep with too much exhaust flow, and if you don't port the wastegate and let the boost get too high, you can blow the engine.

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Old 10-14-07, 02:34 AM
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reatrdedspleen. lol 19mpg? i wish i got that. I'm working on rb headers, straight pipe to rb mufflers. thats about it. should do it but this is only till i get my turbo 2 engine eventually. mmmmm i can't wait. I've never heard the true sound of a rotary and now I'll finnaly be able to.
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somebody was telling me that if you dont have backpressure on a turbo it can close your 5th and 6th ports???
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anyone have fire *****? not just the flames? It seems to happen to me everyonce in a blue moon but I will downshift getting off the highway and I see 1 HUGE orange ball in my rearview mirror and my side mirror. Just a huge ball ball of flame!
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Turbo's don't have port actuators...
Flames are cool at night... I think you'd look pretty stupid if your car was slow and shot flames..


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