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shifting 1st -> 2nd = waiting for revs to drop... what to do?

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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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shifting 1st -> 2nd = waiting for revs to drop... what to do?

ok this is a really hard problem to describe, but I'll do my best. bear with me.

here's my situation. I get the car going from a stop and take 1st gear all the way up to 7000rpm. I drop the clutch, let off the gas, and put the stick into 2nd. during the time it has taken me to do this, the engine speed drops a little, but not alot. also, my vehicle speed has remained about the same (assuming a flat grade, smooth road, etc.)

so here I am doing the same road speed as I was in 1st gear @ 7000, but now I'm ready to engage 2nd and the rpm have only dropped to about 6000 or 6500 (way too high for 2nd gear at this road speed). my best practice so far has been simply to wait (with the clutch still on the floor) until the engine revs drop to 4000rpm so I can engage 2nd gear as smoothly as possible. the only problem is, this takes FOREVER (relatively speaking). what do you do to while waiting for your engine to lose 3000rpm?

it's probably not more than 1 second I'm talking about waiting, but when I want to HAUL ***... 1 second seems like a decade.

does this make sense to anyone?

yes, I'm SOMEWHAT of a 5-speed n00b, and I know experience counts for a lot. I just want to know if I'm missing something.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Very simple 2 step process for this:
1. Stop being a *****.
2. Dump the clutch.

No offence meant by the ***** thing, of course. When you let the clutch out, the load on the motor will pull it to the right speed.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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that, or you could install a lightweight flywheel so the revs drop faster.... but id just dump the clutch
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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mine never drop. when i shift mad crazy yo i dont get any traction
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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what the hell did you just say?
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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wow, is the forum fukked? i saw a bunch of scrambled letters as your response... now its normal. or at least semi normal...
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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No, dude, he's m4d jDm tyte. Don't question him. :p
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by GlitchFC
wow, is the forum fukked? i saw a bunch of scrambled letters as your response... now its normal. or at least semi normal...
yeah, I saw the same thing... didn't make any sense at all the first time.

ok so tomorrow I'll get out there and try the not being a ***** trick ... see if that works.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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dude, just dump the clutch. i regularly burn rubber through second doing that- it's more fun that way.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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but a lightweight flywheel would make the revs drop faster eh? that sounds like what I want.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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RX-7: $500
Learning to drive stick: $125 worth of clutches
Not being a *****: Priceless
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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and youd accelerate faster... well not off the line, but everywhere else...
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by GlitchFC
and youd accelerate faster... well not off the line, but everywhere else...
you mean with a lighter flywheel?
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Wyznewski
RX-7: $500
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Not being a *****: Priceless
right on! lol
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Wyznewski
RX-7: $500
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that's rich. LMAO. should be a t-shirt.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Lightweight flywheels are REALLY expensive. Just go out and experiment with it. You don't need to let the revs drop at all. If you get REALLY brave, try powershifting (Gas to the floor through the entire shift...be quick with it)

Disclaimer: I take NO responsibility for anything you break attempting to powershift. Don't do it until you have a LOT more experience.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Wyznewski
If you get REALLY brave, try powershifting (Gas to the floor through the entire shift...be quick with it)

Disclaimer: I take NO responsibility for anything you break attempting to powershift. Don't do it until you have a LOT more experience.
word.

hey, domesttunner, you're in G'ville. wussup. look for me around town I'll be the guy popping 2nd gear in my black GXL.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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I didn't even read your question. But the answer: Simple. The RPM's won't go down from 1st to 2nd. Just how it is. Now I'll read your question.

I'm a *****, but I still slam the gears when I decide to go fast.

Last edited by excitingleopard; Feb 20, 2004 at 10:29 PM.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by 1SxyRXy
i shift mad crazy yo i dont get any traction
hell yeah like woah and how!
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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powershifting from 1st to 2nd? have fun making your syncros do that. Or you could not granny shift but double clutch like you should.
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