tawd

Jesus... doesnt anyone read before they post? Does the door HAVE to be unlocked AND opened to get the alarm to stop? Or just unlocked?????

What exact part of the door is 100% responsable for disarming the alarm? The key tumbler, the door latch, or the dome light switch?????

Mordachai

Yes. Icemark, you did the rebuild.
I appreaciate everything you've done.
Really
My main concerns , at the time of rebuild, were the fact that my brake lights didn't work at all, due to something alarm related. When it all started, my alarm was goign off for no reason ( lights flashing, horn honking) I had to pull the fuze, which IIRC was also the fuse that ran the brake lights. Does this sound right? I'd have to look at my notes to see exactly what went wrong, and what the symptoms were.
you fixed that, and a bunch of other little quirks with it ( such as before the rebuild, the seatbelt warning Never worked!) (BTW - I've replaced about 75% of the switches since the cpu rebuild and alot of the little quirks seem to have dissapeared)

I've been ignoring that flashing seatbelt light so long, I don't even notice it anymore. LOL



But yeah, by putting the key in the ignition turns it off. I know that there is not and was not any other alarm put in the car( car's always been in the family). Mabye there's more wrong in my car than I even want to know.
Pretty weird huh?

What I'm wondering is why the security light flashes with the alarm off, as well as when it's on.

Boy this thread is sure a screwed bunch of semi-related topics. ,

Sorry Codigo4

Icemark

man, you are just not getting this. How many times do we need to say how the alarm works... no one can search, no-one can read their owners manual- no one can read whats posted in this thread. Just makes me shake my head sadly.

So once more:

The interior latch switches only arm. They do not disarm- in fact they will trigger the alarm if the system is armed.

The only way to disarm the factory system is to turn the key in the doors (or hatch/trunk) to the unlock position. This will disarm the alarm. If it does not, then probably the key switches are disconnected.

The door opened will only trigger the alarm. So how could you open the door if the key did not disarm the alarm???

tawd

Ok smartass... The reason I keep asking what exactly makes the alarm DISARM is because...

My car doesnt have the factory locks(the tumbler assembly) in it. + my drivers side dome light switch is missing. Im trying to figure out if this is why i cant disarm my alarm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You say when you put the key in the lock, and unlock it, the alarm will shut off... When you put the key in the damn lock and turn it to unlock, the key is turning the lock itself, which pulls on a rod, which releases the lock mechanism in the door latch. which part of that assembly tells the alarm to ******* shut off????? The lock, the rod, the latch????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????? Also, does the alarm immediately shut off once the door has been unlocked with the key? Or does the door have to be unlocked, and opened before the alarm will shut off????????? Dont leave dumbass comments when you didnt even read the question your posting on.If you CANT answer this question, DONT ******* REPLY!!!


Oddly enough, the DOME LIGHT SWITCH is apparently what tells the alarm to arm as I can arm the alarm with my passenger side door open, pressing the auto lock on the drivers side... But i CANT get the alarm to arm opening the drivers side door (no door pin for dome light) pressing the auto lock on the drivers side...
Im trying to figure out EXACTLY what componant makes the system disarm.

Icemark

Man you are are just cluess aren't you. I have answered the question at least a dozen times. I guess you didn't read when I said: but instead you read what you want... so again:

How many times do I need to post this???

The disarm switch is built into the key lock on the doors and truck. Maybe this will be more clear- The door key and the truck key holes, where you unlock the door, has a switch built into it that only works when the key is turned to the unlock position.

And you are right dumbshit, I shouldn't even answer your questions. You should read the factory service manual next time.

Houstonderk

iTrader: (3)

hell yea

tawd

So if its built into the keyhole itself, the car should disarm with the hatch, drivers, or passenger door.... Correct?

Icemark

NO NO NO, again I covered this earlier as well.

The factory alarm arms by the latch switch being locked after the key is turn off in the ignition.

The dome light has nothing to do with it except that the alarm won't arm with the door open.

tawd

Then why will my alarm not arm having the drivers side door open when pressing the "door lock button" on the drivers side door??? But works fine with the passenger side door. Again, the only thing different from the drivers side door and pass side door on my car is that the drivers side door has no dome light switch. When you shut the car off, and open a door and press the drivers side lock button the alarm will beep letting you know that its activated... then you pull up on the outside handle of the open door, and shut it. It will then beep again, and be armed. THIS ONLY WORKS USING MY PASSENGER DOOR as the door being opened. The drivers door will NOT activate the alarm.

tawd

Ok unbelievably smart guy... I just went outside and unhooked the dome light pin switch on the passenger side door... NOW the alarm wont arm AT ALL. With EITHER door. Hook the pin back up, and it will successfully arm with the passenger door!!! So, if the latch is what makes the alarm arm, why is the pin switch keeping mine from arming????? I guess i have the ONE AND ONLY rx7 that uses the pin switch in the arming process. ****, my 7 has to be worth some money now... thats pretty unique!!!!

Mordachai

Oh dammmit.

What gives with the smart-*** comments tawd. When one is trying to get advice, suggestions, and help, one should be respectful, if not Humble. Users like you have been killing this board. And not so slowly either. Banned yet?
LOL
Read this and pay attention:
I will quote "double checking for problems with an aftermarket security system that has been integrated into the car." Does this make any sense to you? Ring any bells?
I understand this was said in another context about a different subject. But it holds true. Even you said it .
You must not read well, or be able to process the information. I'm sorry I'm blunt, that's how I see it.


AGAIN:
"double checking for problems with an aftermarket security system that has been integrated into the car."
"double checking for problems with an aftermarket security system that has been integrated into the car."
"double checking for problems with an aftermarket security system that has been integrated into the car."
"double checking for problems with an aftermarket security system that has been integrated into the car."
"double checking for problems with an aftermarket security system that has been integrated into the car."



If your car is so very different(hack job anyone?) then again :double checking for problems with an aftermarket security system that has been integrated into the car."

if you're not the original owner of the car, you have some hide and seek to to do , in order to find an aftermarket control box for an alarm. If you find a box, then maybe you can figure out who made it, and then you can search for a manual for that model. If you search the whole car ( under dash, behind and under EVERYTHING) and find no aftermarket alarm, you've got some work to do with a test light or multimeter.

Then with some hard thought and some ingenuity you might be able to figure out your problem.
Does that help explain things a little to your whiny cursing self?


I think we scared Codigo4 off now...
Did this mess answer your question Codigo4??

lol

|M|

Mindspin311

It wont completely arm until the door is shut, you press the drivers side door lock to the locked position, and both doors should lock and you should hear a beep. Then shut the door, both of them, handles up, and the security light will light up, then it will beep again, armed.

Jose Feliciano

go get a real alarm I hate to hear how someones mazda got stollen even worse stripped

quicksilver_rx7

Just to fuel the fire, the trunk lock doesn't exactly disable the alarm. It more-so just suspends it if the trunk is opened with the key. As soon as the trunk is shut, the alarm should re-arm if it is functioning properly. Also, if he's missing the door-jam switch, this will cause the alarm to not function properly as well, as the alarm is tied into those switches.

civic slasher

I think there might be some validity to this point because I have the same issue but in the opposite way... mine will only arm on the drivers side and not the passenger... my passenger side door dome light switch is broken.....

tawd

This is just unbelievable... Mordachai, why do you keep yapping on about an aftermarket alarm? THERE IS NO AFTERMARKET ALARM ON MY CAR!!!!!! I NEVER ONCE SAID I HAD A ******* AFTERMARKET ALARM!!!! Im really not sure why everyone here has no idea what im talking about... I will try to make this as simple as possible...

ICEMARK said that the dome light switches have NOTHING to do with the alarm being armed... BULLSHIT! Dont give advice that you just made up in your ******* head. IT DOESNT HELP!!!

Here is how the alarm is to me armed on my car...

turn key on, turn key off...
open drivers side door (dome light now illuminated - IF mine worked on the drivers side)
Push down the drivers inside door lock. (alarm now beeps, and light flashes fast)
Lift the outside handle, and shut the door. (alarm now beeps again, and flashes slower and is armed)

Thats EXACTLY how you arm the alarm.
Mine will NOT work that way.
Ok now listen here... this is the point im trying to make.
Follow those instructions above and chance this ONE thing
in the instructions. JUST THIS ONE THING. and then my alarm will
arm correctly.

turn key on, turn key off...
open -->PASSENGER<-- side door (dome light now illuminated - on the passenger side, the dome light works!!!!!)
Push down the drivers inside door lock. (alarm now beeps, and light flashes fast)
Lift the outside handle, and shut the door. (alarm now beeps again, and flashes slower and is armed)

I unhooked the factory dome light switch on the PASSENGER side door. When you open the passenger door, and press the drivers side power lock down, NO ALARMMMMM!!!!! Plug the dome light switch back in on the passenger side.... ALARM WILL ARM!!!!!

SO, obviously the dome light plays a part is ARMING the alarm. That makes ICEMARKS advice totally useless. Icemark, do you even have factory alarm on your car? You have to be pulling this advice straight outta your ***.

What im trying to figure out is... Does the dome light have ANYTHING to do with the DISARMING process?? I want to know what EXACTLY tells the alarm to DISARM. Dont say, its the "key" - Because its NOT the ******* key. I know putting the key in the lock, and turning is a part of the disarming process, but is it the key lock, or the latch being turned to unlock, or the door opening once onlocked that makes the alarm DISARM??????

TAKE YOUR TIME reading a question that is posted so you can give GOOD advice. This could have probably been answered in an hour, if someone read the question all the way through the FIRST time. ICEMARK, you obviously have no idea what your talking about so please, no more help from you on this issue.

Houstonderk

iTrader: (3)

[QUOTE=tawd]Ok smartass... The reason I keep asking what exactly makes the alarm DISARM is because...

My car doesnt have the factory locks(the tumbler assembly) in it.

There you go.

Icemark

Okay you {edited for flaming}. I was not going to reply anymore because you are so full {edited for flaming} and I was tired of dealing with your {edited for flaming} answers, but you had to go ahead and push buttons.

So once again you {edited for flaming}, you can arm the ******* stock alarm without even opening the doors. Simply by turning the key off and locking both the latch switches. Wait maybe your fucked up car does not do this, but it should so that suggests to me that you have just fucked your car up yourself and have just no ******* clue what so ever.

And for disarming, how many people and times do you have to read (maybe you can't read, and are having your cousin read this and type your replies) that to disarm the stcok alarm you must use the switch that is built into the lock cyl. If the dome light had something to do with disarming the alarm the factory alarm would be triggered everytime before you could disarm it. Are you that {edited for flaming} to think that??? I am sorry that you have a butchered car without lock cyls, but that is how you disarm the alarm. Hell you could just pluse a ground onto the same wire attached to that switch and the alarm would disarm. What about that do you just don't get??? Are you that ******* {edited for flaming}???

Maybe if the stock system was intact it would work correctly, but no... you have no door lock cyls, (probablty some lame attempt at shaved handles or the like).

BUT THE STOCK SYSTEM properly installed and working- works that way.

So in light of the complete inability of you to even read the ******* manual, well alone listen to anybody (as every ******* question you asked in this thread was answered mutiple times- and you still don't get it) this thread is closed.