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s4 tII rear end and tranny in a s5 n/a vert.

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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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s4 tII rear end and tranny in a s5 n/a vert.

would this work?

i have tried to search and i couldnt find out.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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why wouldnt it .. ust get the driveshaft
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hurleysurf24
why wouldnt it .. just get the driveshaft
...clutch, flywheel, & starter
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Why? Unless you're putting serious power down...

Not sure if you have an LSD in the conv., but if that's what you want, get an NA LSD diff. and you'll have less work.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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well i am turboing it once i get all the money im swapping a s5 t2 engine in the vert on i get the money for it. will it bolt up?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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See post #4. Get the TII rear end and bolt it in with the engine once you get that. You could re-use the clutch stuff, but would probably end up with an extra flywheel. No use putting the rear end ahead of time and having to put a TII flywheel and clutch in before you need it.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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yeh i get what your saying. its just that my tranny is shot and i only have money for half the swap right now.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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OK, then post #4 is not a bad idea then. Just make sure that when you switch from the NA to TII flywheel you don't have to mess with the front counterweight. I don't remember myself, but have seen threads on this. GL.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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what do you mean by dont mess with it?

and when i get my s5 tII engine it will bolt up with the s4 tranny and rear end right?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Under certain conditions, when changing flywheels, you have to change the front counterweight. You may not have to do this, but I can't say for sure. Search to be sure.

Yes, the S5 engine will bolt up to the S4 rear end.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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well my car right now is an automatic, but yeh thanks for the help. ill search for that.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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2nd gen. archive...

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/frequently-asked-questions-2nd-generation-rx-7-faq-fc-494667/


"Suspension & Driveline (including transmission questions)

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Can I install the Turbo II transmission into an NA?

Certainly. But you need to also install:
-TII flywheel, clutch, pressure plate
-TII slave cylinder
-TII starter
-TII driveshaft, differential, axels
-Adapt the wiring."


https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...o+to+5spd+swap
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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alright awesome thanks.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrizzanizz
well my car right now is an automatic, but yeh thanks for the help. ill search for that.
Have alot of fun with that. I have a S5 that I converted into a 5 speed with a TII drivetrain so it can be done with alot of hassle.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Have alot of fun with that. I have a S5 that I converted into a 5 speed with a TII drivetrain so it can be done with alot of hassle.
was it a s5 with a s4 t2 drivetrain?? or s5 drivetrain? and did you have a donor car or bought bits and pieces from everywhere.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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The car is an S5 and the drivetrain is out of a S4 TII. I left the counter weight on and bolted an ACT prolite flywheel. Installing a light flywheel to the auto counterweight will be alot easier than pulling off the flywheel nut. You will have to remember to install a pilot bearing because I almost forgot. And I believe convertables don't need a bracket for the transmission crossmember. But the drivetrains are interchangeable regardless of series as long as you use either all TII or All N/A parts. And by the way the autos have a 3.90 rear end ratio.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 02:14 AM
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S4 engine to S5 TII trans.Light flywheels and TII clutch pressure plate.Conversion shaft to let the tII Trans go to an N/a LSD..(just a different Variation).**** can be done..just have to use the Right parts..(conversion shaft can be Bought From Mazdatrix,or get one made..TII front Yoke and N/A rear coupler to mate it to the Diff.)
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
S4 engine to S5 TII trans.Light flywheels and TII clutch pressure plate.Conversion shaft to let the tII Trans go to an N/a LSD..(just a different Variation).**** can be done..just have to use the Right parts..(conversion shaft can be Bought From Mazdatrix,or get one made..TII front Yoke and N/A rear coupler to mate it to the Diff.)
**** pressed quote during edit...anyways this set-up is on my 86 N/A.Right now.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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See http://www.cris.com/~Asam/20B.html

Everthing from the flywheel back is from an '87 T-II.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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aweomse man thanks for that site.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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what is the pressure plate?
and if i have to install a clutch and flywheel on the tranny, do i have to pull out the engine to put in a flywheel on the counterweight?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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are you sure you arent in over your head? you not knowing what the pressure plate is could be a huge problem if you want to do a Tii swap.

to answer the question, no you dont have to pull the engine, but you have to buy and install a lightweight flywheel if you want to keep your counterweight. if you want to put a stocker on, you must remove the counterweight and bolt the stock one onto the shaft. either way, dont forget to put a pilot bearing in!!!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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ok sorry for that stupid question for the pressure plate.
i know what that is.
isnt the setup like this:
pressure plate, clutch disk, flywheel?
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