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S4 T2 diff rebuild with Timken bearings?

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Old May 24, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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S4 T2 diff rebuild with Timken bearings?

Has anyone identified the equivalent bearing part #s to rebuild a diff using Timken bearings? I've heard they are better AND cheaper than the ones from Mazda dealers.

BTW, I emailed Timken and got no response.

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Bill
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Old May 24, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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lol... a little off topic... but where i work... we provide the steel for timken...

im sorry im no help
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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Getting close...

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... we provide the steel for timken...

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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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I'll go one better- our fleet of aircraft use Timken wheel bearings that have to spool up to about 180 mph in a split second on landing. Try doing that in your car, lol...
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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WAYNE88N/A
I'll go one better- our fleet of aircraft use Timken wheel bearings that have to spool up to about 180 mph in a split second on landing. Try doing that in your car, lol...

just goes to show what kind of steel we have to produce.... super high quality
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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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I just rebuilt my diff with all new MAZDA parts. Price for bearings and crush sleeve was ~260 (with MAZDACOMP)
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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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I'm planning on doing this one day too, Banzai, which parts did you have to replace to basically "overhaul" it?
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Old May 27, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Timken bearings

If anyone's interested, I heard back from Timken and now have the part #s for the 6 bearings required for the upgrade.

Bill
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Old May 27, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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i don't know if it would be considered an upgrade. back when i worked for Jeep we had bearing failures from Timken on almost a daily basis but every manufacturer had their problems, i think the Timken bearings were simply loaded too tightly and caused the chrome races surfaces to flake off.

Timken is decent but by no means is it a bulletproof bearing.


i would be slightly concerned about the materials used but concerned about the setup procedures more, i have never had a differential i built fail yet and i have used many makes of bearings.

even the 7 1/2" stock diff in my S10 with 33" swampers hasn't failed yet after it spit out a pinion tooth 5 years ago and i beat the snot out of it.

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Bearings

Originally Posted by Karack
Timken is decent but by no means is it a bulletproof bearing.
What about compared to the NSK and Koyo bearings that came stock?

Would you recommend that I just get bearings through the Mazda dealer?

Any brand that you do recommend as better than any of the above?

I'd tend to agree that the biggest factor is setup.

Thanks,

Bill
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WAYNE88N/A
I'm planning on doing this one day too, Banzai, which parts did you have to replace to basically "overhaul" it?
Crush Sleeve
All Seals
All Bearings
NEW Mazda LSD Unit (there are no more in Mazda's Inventory)
4.3 Ring and Pinion which was Isotropically Super-finished and Cryo'd

Pinion was set up according to MAZDACOMP's specs by someone with more experience doing it than I.
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