2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

S4 N/a Uim Removal

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-11-07, 07:19 PM
  #1  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
S4 N/a Uim Removal

Hey guys, I'm in the process of changing out my Pulsation damper, and I can't seem to get the UIM off. I've unbolted and unplugged all the hoses and lines going to it, as well as taken off the attached brackets holding it on, and the 4 nuts and long bolt holding it on the passengers side.

can anyone lend me a hand as to how I can get it off? I've tried about everything and it wont even budge.
Old 01-11-07, 07:27 PM
  #2  
IIMMM BBAAACCKKK!!

iTrader: (8)
 
vipers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: redlands, cali
Posts: 2,904
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
if i remember correctly.. there is one bolt that is hidden on the driver side, you have to take off a bracket held on by 2 10mm bolts.. then the 12mm bolt is under it
Old 01-11-07, 07:36 PM
  #3  
Lives on the Forum

iTrader: (7)
 
Sideways7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Temple, Texas (Central)
Posts: 6,596
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
There's the 5 bolts on the pass side going to the LIM, and there are 3 holding it to the bracket/vac rack. One on the front of the UIM, 2 on the drivers side (behind some other thing below the BAC, forgot the name.)
Old 01-11-07, 08:13 PM
  #4  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Alright, I'll take another look at it tomorrow..see what I can manage. Also, Does anyone know the size of the vacc hose that goes from the FPR on the Secondary fuel rail to a nipple near the airpump area?
Old 01-11-07, 08:30 PM
  #5  
Wankel Wet

iTrader: (5)
 
RE Drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Pasadena
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the bolt in the front "sideways7" is talking about is behind the altanator.

not sure the size is it a really small vac line.
Old 01-11-07, 08:54 PM
  #6  
Lives on the Forum

iTrader: (7)
 
Sideways7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Temple, Texas (Central)
Posts: 6,596
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Yeah, its kinda behind the alt. You need wither a wrench or a socket with a swivel head adapter on it.
Old 01-11-07, 09:54 PM
  #7  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RE Drifter
I think the bolt in the front "sideways7" is talking about is behind the altanator.

not sure the size is it a really small vac line.

The vac line is really small lol.

I've got a shitload of bolts out, I'll take a pictures for you guys tomorrow and hopefully someone can point out what im missing. I have all the visable ones out...Maybe theres something im missing that you guys know of.
Old 01-11-07, 11:04 PM
  #8  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
mightymite's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: southern indiana
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if there still stuck after u get all the bolts out. most likey the gasket is holding it in place and u might have to pry it apart
Old 01-11-07, 11:08 PM
  #9  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hmm, I had all the nuts on the passengers side off and the big stud, and whenever i'd try to shake it to see if it was loose, itd shake the whole motor, like it was still tight, like my bolt removing did nothing. do you guys think thats because the gasket is sealed on there from 19 years of age? should I try prying it off?
Old 01-11-07, 11:11 PM
  #10  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
mightymite's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: southern indiana
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah i had to cut a lil corners off the gasket with a knife and to slip a screwdiver in.then i had to pry around it to work mine loose oh and u dont wanna crank down on it kinda pry a lil then go to the other side try to walk it loose
Old 01-11-07, 11:29 PM
  #11  
'86 N/A Phone Dials

 
Needa13b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Farmington, Minnesota
Posts: 360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Make sure that you have all the bolts out that go along with the vac rack. When you shake the UIM, where is it sticking? I mean, can you see that it is not still attached to the vac rack? Or can you see that where your UIM/LIM gasket is, it is lifting on only 2 ports? Try to really determine where it is sticking.
I had a hell of a time getting mine off. Search UIM removal and Needa13b, you might find a few threads I started. Some have pictures.
It turned out that the mating surfaces of just 1 bolt, back by the wiper motor was stuck. A whack or 2 with a rubber mallet on the driver's side of the UIM got it all loose.
Once it broke loose, I seriously sat and stared for a while. I had spent so much time thinking it was something terrible and I'd never get it off, and then in one swing of the mallet, it gave way, and all problems were gone. Well, all related problems were gone.
Old 01-11-07, 11:37 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

 
LeeTheSlacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: the nati, ohio
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i did this the other day.

there is a ton of bolts.
when you think you've got them all, look for more, you'll find more.

and smack it with your palm or a rubber mallet to break the gasket surface.
Old 01-11-07, 11:57 PM
  #13  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah, because It's technically not HARD just unbolting the bolts and taking out the hoses I see..maybe I'm just missing some bolts like you guys have said. as to the shaking question, when i try and shake the manifold, its STUCK on there, it feels just as bad as it did before i unbolted anything...

Edit: sorry if that sounded sarcastic, I just re read it. wasn't meant to be.

Last edited by Tyblat; 01-12-07 at 12:13 AM.
Old 01-12-07, 12:22 AM
  #14  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Needa13b
Make sure that you have all the bolts out that go along with the vac rack. When you shake the UIM, where is it sticking? I mean, can you see that it is not still attached to the vac rack? Or can you see that where your UIM/LIM gasket is, it is lifting on only 2 ports? Try to really determine where it is sticking.
I had a hell of a time getting mine off. Search UIM removal and Needa13b, you might find a few threads I started. Some have pictures.
It turned out that the mating surfaces of just 1 bolt, back by the wiper motor was stuck. A whack or 2 with a rubber mallet on the driver's side of the UIM got it all loose.
Once it broke loose, I seriously sat and stared for a while. I had spent so much time thinking it was something terrible and I'd never get it off, and then in one swing of the mallet, it gave way, and all problems were gone. Well, all related problems were gone.

I found and read your thread...Tomorrow i'll take another whack at it and see whats up. it's probabily just stuck on, because all those bolts your showing i took off.

Edit: Also, Anyone know the size of that vacuum line on the secondary fuel rail that hooks to the fuel pressure regulator?

Last edited by Tyblat; 01-12-07 at 12:34 AM.
Old 01-12-07, 08:52 AM
  #15  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
morning bump. Anyone?
Old 01-12-07, 09:27 AM
  #16  
Mazdaspeeding

iTrader: (1)
 
melicha8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Count your bolts. The number you should have when it's ready to come out was posted. Take some pictures and we might be able to see the one you're missing
Old 01-12-07, 10:22 AM
  #17  
Junior Member

 
TRINI4U's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: ATLANTA
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You have the 4 nuts & 1 long bolt holding it to the LIM. There is 2 bolts holding it on to the bracket where the accel cable is attached. Last bolt is behind the alt. All of these should be able to be taken off with a 12mm wrench or socket. If after all your lines, elec. connectors & nuts & bolts are removed & it still does not want to budge, give it a tap with a rubber mallet & that should do it. Make sure & have replacement gaskets.
Old 01-12-07, 11:37 AM
  #18  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
alright, I've got the PD fixed and everything back together (managed to do it without taking off manifold.)

question is, I only remember taking out one LONG bolt, and thats the one that goes into the bottom of the intake manifold, near the 4 nuts.

Strangely, I have this remaining, and I cant for the life of me find ANY mising bolt holes.

Its another long bolt with a 10 on the head. can anyone point me in the right direction?

I've also got another 6 (or 9, cant tell) short little one, looks like it went into some of the brackets.




Last edited by Tyblat; 01-12-07 at 11:50 AM.
Old 01-12-07, 11:49 AM
  #19  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (2)
 
JWteknix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Wayne NJ
Posts: 2,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sory didnt know u got if off the long bolt goes through the center of the uim
Old 01-12-07, 11:50 AM
  #20  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I got the PD installed already, right now im just trying to figure out where these bolts go (I've looked everywhere)
Old 01-12-07, 08:22 PM
  #21  
Junior Member

 
TRINI4U's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: ATLANTA
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The only bolts that I remember with some sort of length on them are the ones for the fuel rail. Check by the alt. & see if that shorter bolt is not for the bracket for the UIM.
Old 01-12-07, 09:00 PM
  #22  
Hopeful Future

Thread Starter
 
Tyblat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah the long one goes to the fuel rail. It just threw me off because one bolt on it is short and the other one on it is long.

Anyway though, I got the PD installed, and the damn primary fuel rail STILL leaks gas...anyone have any idea whats causing it? Suggestions and opinions are appreciated.
Old 01-12-07, 11:06 PM
  #23  
Winter Rotary

iTrader: (5)
 
Acesanugal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Athens, Georgia
Posts: 2,552
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Did you happen to check the fuel lines themselves? Either that, or the 'crush' washers didn't seal properly.

Oh, and the Injector's O-Rings could be causing the leak, too.
Old 01-13-07, 03:04 AM
  #24  
Mazdaspeeding

iTrader: (1)
 
melicha8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
that small bolt may hold on the aft portion of the rats nest to the upper intake manifold
Old 01-13-07, 10:55 AM
  #25  
Winter Rotary

iTrader: (5)
 
Acesanugal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Athens, Georgia
Posts: 2,552
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by melicha8
that small bolt may hold on the aft portion of the rats nest to the upper intake manifold
Yeah, there's a small bolt on the passenger side of the UIM, facing the firewall. It's small, and holds two metal/rubber vacuum lines to a mount. It'll **** you off if you can't find it.


Quick Reply: S4 N/a Uim Removal



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:34 AM.