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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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S-AFC install wire question

hey guys this might be in the wrong section so mods if it is im sorry i just need a fast answer.

kk i bought a car with a SAFC alredy installed. the PO did a good job but for some reason had the TPS wire that needs to go to the safc spliced in from a BROWN/Red wire off the car harrness. after looking at a wiring diagram in the FSM it states the TPS wire is Green/red.

this being i the case i know its an S4 car so it wont rread the throttle position past 45% approx. it will just assum after that its WOT.

question is what way is best? is there a reason he used the brown wire. (wire in FSM says its for the boost pressure sensor) or should it be hooked up via the green/red (which in FSM is the TPS wire) then just set up the SAFC accordingly?
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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http://www.1300cc.com/howto/how2/safc.htm

Should be hooked up to the TPS, thats odd he spliced into the boost sensor. I am not too familiar with how the SAFC works, but if it has the capability to modify the pressure sensor signal also then it should be ok. The link above shows a guide specifically for the SAFC though.

Regardless, there should be a calibration on the SAFC for the throttle so it "knows" what 100% open and closed are. So don't worry about the issue with the TPS only reading to 45%, the SAFC will take this as 100%...
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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I have the installation and user manuals for the S-AFC II. If you would like copies, PM me an email address and I'll send them to you.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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This is an n/a engine? He hooked it up to the MAP sensor because it will provide a wider range single than the factory s4 TPS.

The s4 TPS will read full voltage at like 40% throttle as you've said. The n/a 1 bar MAP sensor will read full voltage at atmospheric pressure, which corresponds to WOT. It's pretty much a bandaid to account for the fact that the s4 cars do not have a full range TPS. There is at least one writeup about this floating around. It's kind of an oldschool thing, people were discussing it a lot when I joined the forums in '04.

Just leave it.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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no this is a turbo 2 motor so would it not mess with the voltage range as it goes from manifold vac to 0 to 10 psi? i already changed it to the tps wire but would i be better to switch it back?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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people actually OFTEN use the map sensor instead of TPS for wiring the AFC. our TPS is so narrow ranged compared to our map sensor...at 1/3 throttle the tps voltage is maxed out.

it uses the map sensor signal as the tps signal, allowing you to tune for boost% values instead of throttle% values.



the biggest drawback is if you have boost dropoff...then using the TPS may be more beneficial.
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