rx8 rims on a rx7?
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In general, smaller diameter rims are lighter.
Some really expensive 17" rims can be lighter.
For 18" rims to be lighter than your stockers, it had to be exotic metals like magnesium; almost all the other 18" rims are heavier than your stockers, otherwise.
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Some really expensive 17" rims can be lighter.
For 18" rims to be lighter than your stockers, it had to be exotic metals like magnesium; almost all the other 18" rims are heavier than your stockers, otherwise.
-Ted
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Originally Posted by Turbo II-FB
does anyone have pics with r33 rims on a FC I would really like to see that
Anyone know the size? 16x8 or 16x9 (or other)?
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Originally Posted by diagoro
to sit as flush as it is on that car...
They will fit fine in the rear, but the fronts can only take about +20...maybe +25.
You need at least a 1/4" spacer up front minimum.
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Originally Posted by S2-13BT
Looks alright.
I don't like the idea of 20mm spacers though...
I don't like the idea of 20mm spacers though...
And people are talking about weight... remember a 20mm spacer adds about 3 lbs between spacer and longer studs to the rotational mass.
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The R33 GT-R wheels aren't 18", they're only 17". The problem with that gunmetal FC (apart from the busted headlights) is not the wheels but the ruined suspension. Not only does it look silly being that low, I bet it handles like complete crap. What is so hard to understand about the concept of suspension travel?
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^might i remind everyone that not everyone goes out and autoX's their car or races it...some people DO buy wheels bcuz THEY LIKE HOW IT LOOKS...in all honesty...who gives a **** what other people think? (unless its being judged in a car show)...im just saying some people on here are just making their comments based upon whether or not the wheels will increase or decrease performance...when the point of the thread was whether or not the wheels LOOKED GOOD...not how much they weigh...how well the performe etc...
sorry for the bitching...cuz i think they look good
sorry for the bitching...cuz i think they look good
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Yes and maybe. I've seen a 2nd gen with RX-8 wheels installed. Not sure if spacers were required or not. Not my taste, but looked OK. Now, it probably cost half a million dollars...
Originally Posted by YearsOfDecay
Lets not get into the spacers debate............ ARRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH Spacers.. grumble mrrffffff *(&*(*&(
Originally Posted by NOPR
they might fit, but they look like *** and perform like ***.
Originally Posted by Archangels
i think it looks wicked....
what kinda bumper is that...?
what kinda bumper is that...?
Originally Posted by JTP
I think its Version Select
(http://www.andysautosport.com/bodyki...rsion%20Select)
Same body kit thats going on my T2
What I want to know is were did that guy get that wing, kind of looks like a celica looking thing
any ideas?
(http://www.andysautosport.com/bodyki...rsion%20Select)
Same body kit thats going on my T2
What I want to know is were did that guy get that wing, kind of looks like a celica looking thing
any ideas?
the wing appears to be bomex? its ugly.
Originally Posted by BklynRX7
Im about to put fd wheels on my fc. Using a 20mm spacer and extended ARP studs. I think they should be fine as long as im not doing any auto-x or wild BS. I would rpefer nto having too, but I already have the wheels so why waste them?
if you would prefer to keep your stock wheel studs and go for a more solid type of spacer, i would reccomend somthing similar to these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KYO-E...spagenameZWDVW
plate spacers are fine but with the bolt on spacers you dont have a thing jiggling around on your wheel hub every time you change wheels and stuff.
Originally Posted by Roshambo
That red FC looks good, but why does it have the cheapo black mirrors from the base model? Where is the TII Aero Mirrors, or did that market not get them?
Originally Posted by 1990RXHeaven
Okay, I know this might be outta place but I use my 15 inch gxl wheels and love them to death. Alot of ppl like the big wheel thing but aren't the 15's the best for handling and performance without going to an exceptionally wider wheel. I also don't drag my car, only road course stuff, so ins't stock width ideal too. I'm not knocking the big wheel issue, it's just always bugged me on performance gains, if any, from going bigger.
Originally Posted by TwISteRx
Yeah its ok, anyone got a pic of the skyline wheels? Or MR7's? Close to the same design.
Originally Posted by S2-13BT
Looks awesome IMO.
Anyone know the size? 16x8 or 16x9 (or other)?
Anyone know the size? 16x8 or 16x9 (or other)?
Originally Posted by RETed
You need spacers with the R33 wheels...?
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Originally Posted by RotaryDreamz
i like the r33 wheels on the 7... anyone know where i can get a set?
www.takumiproject.com
www.wheelchoice.com
www.ggarageusa.com
www.jspec.com
etc
Originally Posted by RETed
Takumi Project has them spec'd at 17" x 9", +30.
They will fit fine in the rear, but the fronts can only take about +20...maybe +25.
You need at least a 1/4" spacer up front minimum.
-Ted
They will fit fine in the rear, but the fronts can only take about +20...maybe +25.
You need at least a 1/4" spacer up front minimum.
-Ted
Originally Posted by Icemark
and
wow, both those look way broken... I stand by my comments that 18" are stricky ricer/poser wheels on a FC. Of course the broken headlights on the second picture does not help things.
And people are talking about weight... remember a 20mm spacer adds about 3 lbs between spacer and longer studs to the rotational mass.
wow, both those look way broken... I stand by my comments that 18" are stricky ricer/poser wheels on a FC. Of course the broken headlights on the second picture does not help things.
And people are talking about weight... remember a 20mm spacer adds about 3 lbs between spacer and longer studs to the rotational mass.
Originally Posted by NZConvertible
The R33 GT-R wheels aren't 18", they're only 17". The problem with that gunmetal FC (apart from the busted headlights) is not the wheels but the ruined suspension. Not only does it look silly being that low, I bet it handles like complete crap. What is so hard to understand about the concept of suspension travel?
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Originally Posted by chmercer
what is wrong with spacers. oh yea, NOTHING. they change the offset of the wheel, nothing more. they are not any worse for your car than a wheel of the same effective offset. wheel spacers are frequently used in racing; older widebody porsches came with wheel spacers from the factory. If somone has had a wheel failure from a spacer, it is due to improper installation. (this information is in regards to bolt on spacers). extended studs and 20mm plate spacers is a cheap and crappy way to do things.
Go read up on road racing sanctions and wheel spacers before making such false statements.
Also, might I recommend a book on race car dynamics and engineering?
Your false statements on having no effect on handling by changing the offset are way off the truth.
if you think they look bad, thats your opinion. my opinion? your car and its setup sucks ***.
The performance gain from using a larger wheel is in the decreased profile of the tire, which begets sharper turn in, decreased body roll from less sidewall flex, and better tire compound selection.
What does larger diameter have to do with compound?!?
How about I run 13" slicks?
I'd bet I could out-turn and out-corner you in almost any situation.
no ****?
I bet I know more about offset and wheel fitments then you would ever want to...
Wheel spacers, while weighing a completly insignificant amount, also increase track width, which makes the car slightly more stable.
Lowered cars, when done correctly, like that car (not cut springs and blown shocks, as you seem to think) handle far better than stock by controlling body roll more efficiently, quickening response, more efficiently transferring body motion into the suspension (when spherical upper mounts are used) and basically just keeping the wheels more firmly planted to the pavment. suspension travel is not compromised AT ALL when using a quality aftermarket suspension. On any decent aftermarket suspension the lower mount will be threaded to allow the shock to move up and down independant of the mount.
The whole package needs to work together.
Making a general statement like...
Dropping the chassis = automatic instant better suspension performance
...is just ludicrous.
CLIFFS NOTES -
you guys need to get your **** straight.
you guys need to get your **** straight.
Cliff Notes are for cheaters who didn't do their homework.
Next time read the entire book before making any comments...
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Originally Posted by RETed
You obviously don't know anough about the subject to be making statements like this.
Go read up on road racing sanctions and wheel spacers before making such false statements.
Also, might I recommend a book on race car dynamics and engineering?
Your false statements on having no effect on handling by changing the offset are way off the truth.
Go read up on road racing sanctions and wheel spacers before making such false statements.
Also, might I recommend a book on race car dynamics and engineering?
Your false statements on having no effect on handling by changing the offset are way off the truth.
What kind of assine comments is this?
You don't know how wrong that is...
What does larger diameter have to do with compound?!?
How about I run 13" slicks?
I'd bet I could out-turn and out-corner you in almost any situation.
What does larger diameter have to do with compound?!?
How about I run 13" slicks?
I'd bet I could out-turn and out-corner you in almost any situation.
Again, what's with the assine comments?
I bet I know more about offset and wheel fitments then you would ever want to...
I bet I know more about offset and wheel fitments then you would ever want to...
I guess it's convenient that running a spacer does compromise fastener strength...
Wrong.
The whole package needs to work together.
Making a general statement like...
Dropping the chassis = automatic instant better suspension performance
...is just ludicrous.
The whole package needs to work together.
Making a general statement like...
Dropping the chassis = automatic instant better suspension performance
...is just ludicrous.
No wonder you don't know what you're talking about.
Cliff Notes are for cheaters who didn't do their homework.
Next time read the entire book before making any comments...
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Cliff Notes are for cheaters who didn't do their homework.
Next time read the entire book before making any comments...
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Originally Posted by Roshambo
That red FC looks good, but why does it have the cheapo black mirrors from the base model? Where is the TII Aero Mirrors, or did that market not get them?
Originally Posted by chmercer
Lowered cars, when done correctly, like that car (not cut springs and blown shocks, as you seem to think) handle far better than stock...
And we're all well aware the headlights are modded, just as most of us are aware they look broken and look like ***.
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Don't put words in my mouth. If I though it had "cut springs and blown shocks" I would've said so. The only reason to lower a car that much is for posing, not handling. Not even genuine FC race cars aren't that low, and they're set-up for smooth racetracks. I'd love to see that car trying to go fast on a rough country road. The excessive negative camber on the rear is a clear sign that this suspension set-up is far from ideal.
hmm, these cars look pretty low to me, and i think they are genuine rx7 race cars. I guess they just have it set that way to look cool, huh?
^ what a riced out junker, his car is tucking wheel! Sebring and Daytona is for posers.
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Originally Posted by chmercer
i know plenty about wheel spacers. i have used many in the past and have never had a failure. i said nothing about wheel spacers not altering handling. i merely said that using a wheel spacer to push a wheel further out will have the exact same affect as a lower offset wheel. obviously it will affect scrub radius and track width, among other things. the suspension dosent care if im using a 17x8 +40 or a 17x8 +20 with a 20mm spacer. "they are not any worse for your car than a wheel of the same effective offset." Im not using any spacers right now, but im sure I will use more in the future. Find me any information about a failed wheel spacer where the user properly torqued all the lugs and had substantial thread engagment.
Hell, I think a search on here should turn up some information.
Your quest is a loaded one, cause most racing sanctions ban wheel spacers - so how do I find an example of a failed wheel spacer when racers can't use it?
one just as assanine as a blanket comment about 18" wheels looking and performing like ***. everything has its place. I was just proving a point. I see it escaped you.
I never made a comment about 18" wheels looking like "***".
I didnt think i would have to clarify this for you, but if i have to go into detail then i will. Lets say i want to run an advan a048 tire, and I have some awesome forged hollowspoke magnesium fancy low unsprung weight 16x10 wheels in the perfect offset. OOPS. the widest tire i can buy is a 225. If i had bought 18" wheels, I could go all the way up to a 315 tire. oh well. 16s are better for "performance" so i guess ill go cruise around town on my 13" slicks and die in the rain.
Why would I want to run 16" x 10" rims?
What the hell is the "perfect offset"?
Your argument is going no where.
Why would a "relatively" stock FC *WANT* to run 315 wide tires?
The car can't possible use all that rubber, and the increase in weight is surely detrimental.
Now, if you're like us trying to shoot for 700hp with a 20B, the arguing about 315's is a valid point.
But, it takes money to build something like that.
If you got the money, it opens up a lot more options...wide fenders, redone suspension, etc.
You're going off on a tangent here.
If that were true, I wouldnt have had any room to post an assanine comment, because you would have already known the answer to your assanine post. If you need help fitting some wheels let me know. reverse 2 piece, high camber "drifter style", full grip modified overfenders, etc etc let me know.
Im sure it does. putting performance suspension on your car compromises ride quality. scraping out sound deadening compromises interior noise. putting wider wheels and tires on the front axle compromises scrub radius. is it worth it to you to check your lug nuts with a torque wrench every once in a while? if not, then maybe spacers arent for you.
My car is downright loud and uncomfortable, but I don't think so.
What you might call "compromise", I see it as a "performance upgrade".
You can't apply all your POV's on everyone else...
how did you pull "Dropping the chassis = automatic instant better suspension performance" from my post? i agree that that is indeed ludicrous. notice how i said "when done right". This would include bumpsteer, camber, toe, etc correction, as all these settings will change in a detrimental fashion if the car is haphazardly lowered. a lowered center of gravity alone will not make a car handle well. Im sure you know about roll center and such so no reason to continue.
I think you missed something back there...
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Originally Posted by chmercer
hmm, these cars look pretty low to me, and i think they are genuine rx7 race cars. I guess they just have it set that way to look cool, huh?
^ what a riced out junker, his car is tucking wheel! Sebring and Daytona is for posers.
^ what a riced out junker, his car is tucking wheel! Sebring and Daytona is for posers.
*bzzt* sorry, try again...
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