the sc is the first of its kind here in fresno california, i also put a apexi 2 on it and thats new for a rotory sc also, it dynoed untuned at 171.43 to the rear wheels, being that its a first of its kind here where i live , my mechanic is still tuning the car made some more adjustments with the apexi today we got the airfolw figure out with the apexi, wed, we will tweak it some more , its been a real bitch getting this thing tuned but with what we did today dammmmmmmm what a difference, will keep ya all updated on the final dyno and will post the slip then, take care rx7fromcal

 

Those numbers are consistent with Phil Garrott's(?) numbers with a Paxton type SC on his NA.
Looking forward to more data!
Good luck!


-Ted

 

ya from what camden says thats what they dynoed at with stock injectors and fuel pump and stock ecu. well im running 450 primes 650 secondarys with 255 walbro and the apexi2, and much more. and the 171 was untuned so im sure its gonna be much more once its tuned correctly, il keep ya updated.

 

almost 3 grand and 171hp..

 

RWHP, Thats a very very nice improovement over stock


(Edit...Remove flame. It happens again, and you'll be taking a week's vacation)

 

Over a motor with stock exhaust maybe, my S4 with exhaust and ported intakes did 164 at the wheels. I'd be interested to see how it does tuned, but wow, that's kind of a letdown even untuned.

 

I hope to see a lot better numbers. I would think that a 50% gain (as indicaed on the Camden website) should be more than 170 rwhp.

 

I was talking to Dave over at Atkins today and he said you get a 30% increase in power and that they were seeing something like 28 MPG. That is a nice set up , it looks to be a bolt on deal.

 

MPG really isn't a factor, my turbo cars can get 24+, it's all a matter of how you drive it. I'm just kind of concerned about the low numbers. What boost is this at? What kind of AF/R? Happen to have a dyno graph?

 

well its nice to meet you too. First off, 3k for something that I can spend a FRACTION of in TII parts to get the same, if not higher numbers is a waste of money.
I used to like the idea of a supercharger for the FC, but for those kinds of numbers im sorry, but thats why im buying TII parts.

(Edit...Remove reference to flame)

 

I'd be interested in seeing the graphs. From what I've heard, superchargers add very significant low end torque, which is something NAs lack badly. They extend the power band down by a large margin.

-=Russ=-

 

That's only like ~35 rwhp improvement over a stock s5, for $3,000 doesn't really seem worht it. Plus he has intake and I'm sure exhaust, so that number seems even worse.

I really hope, for you, that it improves with tuning, otherwise that kinda sucks.

 

It's at like 5# of boost I imagine. That kit is easily capable of over 250 at the wheels with more fuel and boost.

 

What gives you that idea?

 

Well, I got tired of waiting for a reply. Something tells me this wasn't just 5psi, maybe it's because of the poster spouting that he's running 10psi all over the place? Here's a direct quote:

 

for 3 grand i could drop a tII in my first gen with bolt ons and put 220 to the ground easily, and then proceed to beat the crap out of a 3000 lb convertable...

 

QUOTE]Well, I got tired of waiting for a reply. Something tells me this wasn't just 5psi, maybe it's because of the poster spouting that he's running 10psi all over the place? Here's a direct quote:] Well i was disappointed also, but being that it put out what camdens put out untuned, i think it did ok, considering i havent done **** for tunning it yet, soooooooo for me spouting off that its at 10 psi, it is what it is!!!!! im sure its gonne be more to the rear wheels i hope after we get this thing dialed in, some of you out here for get , that camden and myself are doing something out here not to many people know that much about, so its been alot of trial and error. ya some of you people out here think its a alot for what your getting , well maybe so. i went the supercharger route because i wanted a the sc and not a turbo. if this sc only gets 200 or 225 to the rear well theres nothing i can do about that, im happy with the product and what ive done so far with the car , and i will continoue to work with camden to give them feed back on whats going on to make this sc better. and will post what ever my results maybe as soon as possible. have a great holidays every one. rx7fromcal

 

$3000 to sc it? That seems outrageously expensive. For 3k you should have 300hp with a turbo.

 

It's amazing that every thread about this kit becomes one huge complaint about the price. 90% of the posts here are people whinning about cost. Drop it.

We all know it's expensive. It costs TIME and MONEY for a company to develop products like this. You ever wonder why people aren't making parts for these cars? Well, that's the reason.

Obviously, this kit is NOT targetted at the average 2nd gen owner.

 

Thanks for posting the numbers. Is this a roots type or centrifugal. intercooled?

 

If you would like to visit with a guy in my area who built a supercharger and intake for his 13b about 15 years ago and did have good luck with it (ran 9's, 10's), p.m. me and i'll give you his contact info. He runs a Mazda house and might have some helpfull info.

 

I think it's more than the fact it's expensive. It's also that it DOESN'T improve the power levels hardly at all. That in conjunction with the price is what bother people the most.

13bpower: Please don't spout out misinformation and act like it's fact. I doubt this kit will ever get anyone to the 250 rwhp range, it is not the most efficient sc you can use.

RX7FROMCAL: Good luck man, but tuning is probably not going to all of a sudden get you 30+ rwhp so I think you're kind of stuck at those power levels. And just because you're "the first person in your area to sc an rx7" which I really really doubt, I'm sure there are more people that have than you realize, doesn't mean its suddenly some super hard thing to do or tune. Supercharger is supercharger, and tuning is tuning, any real tuner shouldn't have a problem with it either way just because it's a rotary or hasn't been done much.

 

well we shall se when its all done, what comes from all this.

 

I'm not arguing price Aaron, so I hope I'm ok still. Anyway, I'm arguing the fact that my n/a conversion made over 200rwhp untuned at 7psi, I'm just having a hard time taking in how little this setup has done as far as peak terms. However, I'm still holding my breathe because although it doesn't have much HP, torque and the curve is what will really be the shining rescue point for this kit, which is why I'm still holding my tongue

Oh, and about my use of 'spouting', I wasn't using it as a statement that you're running your mouth, I was just using that term to indicate that you've said it quite a few times, and that I figured the other guy would've read that (if he paid attention to this setup) before he went and made that statement. Like I said before, good luck and I hope it turns out better, but I'm really let down at the moment.

 

there is plenty of n/as that have ~160whp and I know of 2 with more than 175whp

however if u can hit ~250hp when u tune it I think that 3k isnt that bad of a price for it