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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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So is that the stock steering wheel from all s4's, or just some models? I had honestly never even seen one until last week when I went to a new junkyard. I guess the rest just had the steering wheels removed or other steering wheels.
Mine's like that. Very 80's wooden volvo station wagon-ish.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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You have a lot of stuff in your garage! I like your work, everything is nice and clean. I wish i could have patience to do that type of work to mine. I have a question. You used Thermopol tubing for your heater lines. What diameter hosing did you use? I need some for my project. Also the exhaust looks great. I'm jelous that you know how to weld aluminum. Hopefully i will get there one day. But right now i am going through composite repair school.

Thanks and congrats.

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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Wow that kicks ***. You have motive me to finally get off my *** and do get back to putting my car back together. Hope everything works out for you man.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
congrats man! You did a damn fine job on your project and it shows. So I noticed you made a comment about the throttle body not being a responsive as you had hoped. Whats that all about?
What I mean is that it's a lot easier to control then I thought it would be. I was concerned that the throttle body would be too large for the engine, thus meaning that response down low would be very sensitive. Overall it is more sensitive then the stock throttle body but it is very easy to drive. I think that once it's tuned I should have no trouble letting the clutch out around 2000RPM.

As far as throttle response, even in it's untuned state it's almost instant.

Originally Posted by Rotorlution
Holy crap, Geddy Lee has a kid...lol JK
Congrats Aaron, glad to see her running. What kind of #'s are you expecting or hoping for from this setup?
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Somewhere North of 400 once I get the real turbo on. There's certainly enough port area and fuel for much more then that...

Originally Posted by Karack
i do like that you made it realistic, most people cut out all the problems they run into during a build up. no matter how experienced a mechanic there is always bound to be bugs to work out after doing extensive work.
One of my major annoyances is "TV show syndrome". Essentially where someone shows 3 seconds of video representing 3 days of work. Truly I think that very few people have any kind of concept of the amount of raw work it takes to do something like this. Even on this forum there are probably only a few handfulls of people like you, myslef and the others that really have any idea.

Originally Posted by Sideways7
So is that the stock steering wheel from all s4's, or just some models? I had honestly never even seen one until last week when I went to a new junkyard. I guess the rest just had the steering wheels removed or other steering wheels.
I think it's only very early '86s that got the wheel. Almost every other 2nd gen I've seen has the newer style wheel.

Originally Posted by Mx6-Rx7 Addict
You have a lot of stuff in your garage! I like your work, everything is nice and clean. I wish i could have patience to do that type of work to mine. I have a question. You used Thermopol tubing for your heater lines. What diameter hosing did you use? I need some for my project. Also the exhaust looks great. I'm jelous that you know how to weld aluminum. Hopefully i will get there one day. But right now i am going through composite repair school.
Thanks and congrats.
Justin
Now you're stretching my memory...I think the heater hose size is 5/16" or 7/16". It's probably best to measure your stock hose, or take some into your local hydraulic shop.

As for welding aluminium...I can do it in the sense that I can stick two pieces together and assemble intercooler piping, brackets, an intake, etc. But you wouldn't catch me welding up a chassis, if you know what I mean.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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When do you expect some dyno #s?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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How do the neighbors like it?


Beautiful work.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Rat
When do you expect some dyno #s?
Not really sure. I don't think there's any real point to dynoing it with the stock turbo unless I'm really bored one day. Since it won't have a real turbo on it until the spring I would have to guess at mid-summer Right now I'm just happy I can drive it (after I fix that fuel leak this weekend).

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How do the neighbors like it?
Beautiful work.
Actually, they seem happy. I think they're just glad the grinding and cutting is over...
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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ok, (do to dial up) i really dont want to go ack to the first page (reason: pics take forever to load,)
but i thought i read you were eventually going back to N/A???
am i imagining things?
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Yes, I will be going back to NA. After this engine, I'm going to do either a full bridge or semi-peripheral port 13B turbo. Then I want to get a little crazy and dump the 13Bs for an NA peripheral port engine...
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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If their Is one guy that deserves to be back on the road with their 7 - It's you Aaron! Three years Is a heck of a longtime (Incidently, my projected date as well ).

Good to see you back on the road.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Update:

Today I pushed the car out of the garage to take a look at the fuel leak. I didn't want to run the car because it was leaking fuel and I didn't want the system pressurized. Once the car was in the air it looked like the problem was as I assumed, an NPT fitting that did not seal due to inadequate thread engagement. However as soon as I pressurized the system I found out that it was much worse.

The fittings didn't leak at all and the hoses were perfectly dry. However there was seepage at the Mallory filter where the two halves of the canister met. After wiping off the filter and repressurizing it was obvious that was the source of the leak. I pulled the filter apart and checked the big o-ring that seals it, covered it with Hylomar and then reinstalled the canister.

When I pressurized the system it leaked even more. Around the entire circumference of the filter canister fuel literally poured out of the seam.

At the moment I'm not sure what's the problem. Maybe the o-ring is bad, maybe the wrong o-ring is installed, maybe there is a machining error, etc. Who knows. However I am very frustrated at the whole thing because it means that I can't drive the car. I'm going to have to call Mallory and see about getting a replacement under warranty but even if they ship it immediately it still means the car will sit in the garage for another week. It's rapidly approaching October where snow can be expected later in the month. I'd be mighty pissed if I can't drive the car this year.

Overall I'm very unhappy with Mallory at this moment and I can't recommend that anyone else use their filter. Mine is probably just defective but then again none of my Aeromotive or Russel parts had problems. And the 160 Series Competition Filter was certainly NOT cheap.

My oil leak is likely the metering oil pump. Looks like there is a lot of oil leaking at the shaft but I will have to run the car more to find out which I can't do with a fuel leak...
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Well, theres always gonna be bugs to shake down. But congrats on the car. Theres a lot of real nice engineering you put into it.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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congrats on the car engine bay looks sooooooo sweeet i alos have the maroon interior as does yours but yea congrats on the car wish i had the time and money to make my 7 look like that
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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finally got to see the vid and man you are the shiz nit man i wish i had your knowhow i almost nutted in my pants when i heard her roar up that first time man i cant compliment enough so fackin bomb dizzle also where did you originally get your 7 from and what did it start out as and what is it now? and again you are rotary god

p.s. hope you have many fun times in the 7 and may it run forever
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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aaron - congrats on the running of tina. it's good to see that all the hard work you did on it has finally paid off. great job!!

on another note. i have the same stock steering wheel on my '87 se.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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"whole things gonna be live on camera
i'm not gonna do any cuts or anything
so if it doesn't so, you'll see it not start.
if it starts, you'll...see it start.

*cut to next scene*"

- classic
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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Update....

The fuel leak is solved. Last week I waited until Wednesday to hear from Mallory, but did not receive an email from them. So I called and was basically told that they would warranty the filter but it could take 3 weeks...That was not going to work for me. I got the o-ring size from the Mallory guy over the phone and went hunting for one locally. After calling nearly every hydraulic shop in town I finally found someone who could order the 2.86" x 0.070" o-ring in Viton.

Friday morning, the o-rings arrived. A big thanks to Custom Fluid Power in London Ontario for being so quick with such a small order. I also ordered the o-rings required to rebuild the metering oil pump.

Sunday I was able to get some time to work on the car. So I pulled the filter, cleaned the mating surfaces, coated the o-ring and filter body in vascelene and then reinstalled the filter. Holding my breath I turned the key and was happy to see no leaks. After running the pump for a few minutes the filter was still leak free so I put the car back on the ground to see about doing some tuning on the cold start and setting the timing...

I still have oil leak issues though. The metering pump is dripping from the shaft so I will rebuild it soon. And it seems that I have the infamous front hub bolt leak. I have a feeling that when I installed and torqued the front eccentric bolt I coated the o-ring in Hylomar and not grease. Grease is necessary in these circumstances to prevent killing the o-ring while the bolt is being screwed into place. At some point I'll have to pull that bolt and replace the o-ring and crush washer.

Originally Posted by run_rabbit_run
"whole things gonna be live on camera
i'm not gonna do any cuts or anything
so if it doesn't so, you'll see it not start.
if it starts, you'll...see it start.
*cut to next scene*"
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Well it was either that, or include 5 minutes of repositioning the camera on the video. I chose the less boring approach.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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heh just having some fun. nice work on the car, i'll be firing up my year long project here (hopefully within the month)...i'll try to get it on video.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
...coated the o-ring and filter body in vascelene...
It's Vaseline. You can even see it in the photos you posted...

The metering pump is dripping from the shaft so I will rebuild it soon.
If you feel like photo-documenting that, the S4 community would be very appreciative.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
It's Vaseline. You can even see it in the photos you posted...
Noted.

If you feel like photo-documenting that, the S4 community would be very appreciative.
Sure, why not. I'm planning to do the pump tonight or tomorrow.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Hey Aaron,

As you can tell just saw the video ... sounds pretty cool . Good to hear that you fixed that fuel leak and wasn't anything too hard. It's shitty to hear about the oil leak and hopefully won't turn into a big job (I think you should just get a hose from the inside of the car to the oil filler neck to just keep fresh oil going in all the time ) lol jk ... Thanks for letting me in the VIP room (AKA the Garage) on sunday. Really amazed me ... I haven't really seen all the previous posts till now so it was all good. Hopefully I didn't delay anything on sunday. Once you get it Up and running and street legal, I think we should do a little meet and then we'll do a real rotary challenge ... which car sounds the loudest its not all about HP# Besides you wouldn't stand a chance against my SP 12a with that evil holley carb :P
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