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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 04:50 PM
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Running from the Police.

Just a question for all you 2nd gen owners. Anyone ever try to out run the police? I mean I have to a ceratin extent....like when there was lots of corners and i knew the area well. But not when it was wet out and i had a spare wheel on the front. But just wondering how out 2nd gens do agains the police cruiser...And what about highway chasing...do coppers go faster then us?

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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 05:00 PM
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I have done it b4. We have a smaller turning circle, as i was able to pull a U-turn and he had to put it inro reverse to pull it and by then i was gone . I guess we top out around the same speed and 0-60 is about an even match. The TII's could probably take 'em with ease though....

Just remember, runnig from police is stupid, unless... There is no way they can get your plates/ID
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 05:00 PM
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You can never go faster than their radios!
I asked a friend who is a cop, how fast their cars are. He told me my TII would out run them, but it wouldn't out run their radios.
The best thing to do, is pull over and be as polite as you can.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 05:09 PM
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I ran in the convertible, and I got away.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 05:10 PM
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yes officer that was me doing 120mph/h down there, yes and that was me doing the burn out...Yep I also changed lanes without signaling and ran that stop sign...

Hehe Ive tried that way too many times...it doesnt work up here in canada thats for sure.

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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 05:10 PM
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when you ran did they have the sirens and lights on? And did you run in the city or highway? Can you tell us a story please??

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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 09:34 PM
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Ive runmany times. Not so much running, but make a quick dash, divert, and hide. Those last 2 are key. IF youre in a large open area, yourre screwed. IF youre in town, moderate traffic, etc. then go for it.

I have MANy stories about this that you guys would **** over. People might say its BS, except that I have witnesses, including more often than Id have liked, my wife.

One in particular, I was racing some riceboys in town. The main strip is a non-divided 4 lane, with a venter turning lane. We were hauling *** straight in the middle, and cops were ont eh other side, going the other way. Traffic(cruising at 30 or so) was too deep for them to bust a U, but I knew theyd be giving chase soon. After I spanked the other car for another 1/4 mile, I found a service station ont he opposite side of the road to pull of at. It was one of those kind that has gas pumps on both sides of the building, with a large roof over it all, and the building sits between the road and the pumps behind it. Just as I pulled across the road, a cop car had just passed going the other way, and must have spotted me. He imediately hit his brakes and turned around to see where I went. There were several places I could have turned into there, so I hauled *** around the back of the gas station, turned off my lights, used my e-brake to stop, and waited. I knew he'd be coming from the east end of the road, so I parked behind the west corner of the building. A minute later, I could see the reflection of the cop's light bar on the white bottom of the gas station roof. He had pulled in on the east end, on the front, adn cruised toward the west end. Abut that time, I saw another cruiser heading farther west, on teh 4 lane, I assumed to pull over the other car I was racing. So this one cop, cruises in front of the station slowly, while Im pulling the other way behind the same station, watching his car in the reflection. I saw him slowly cruise toward the back, that's when I made a run back out on the road in the other direction, so he still couldnt see me. I hit a backroad and never saw another one on teh way home. Several weeks later I talked with one of the guys, and he said they had been caught and the driver took to jail.

On another instance I was coming home from cruising in Gatlinburg, up in the mountains, bout 40 miles from my home. It was about midnight, in a long, divided 4 lane open stretch of road. Im doing about 20 over the minit, but perfectly normal for those conditions. All of the sudden I look up and spot a state tropper ont he opposing side, then my detector(shitty uniden then, got a V1 now) pegged. He tapped his brakes and I knew he was gonna come back after me, as soon as he cound his next median. Luckily there wasnt one for about 1/4 mile, plus there was traffic coming from a redlight that had turned green behind me. SO I floored it, and once out of sight around a bend, I went lights out and found a large building to hide behind. My g'f was with me, and I had to listen to bitching the whole while. So we're sitting there int he dark, lights off behind this building at teh corner(could only go about 5ft behind the building) watching for the tropper to haul *** by. I never did see him go by after about 10 minutes, so I fugred he musta had a more important call on into town. About that time I creep out, lights still off, see nothing, and pullon across the lot toward the road. Right as I flipped on my lights, I look up in the opposing lane and the ****** is coming right for me again! HE did a U and followed me for like 2 miles, then sped on by. I think he didnt get a positive ID on me before, though Im sure he knew it was me, he probably knew he had nothing on me. I thin in TN if you are a cop and lose sight of an alledged offender, without having a positive ID on plates then it will not stand in court.

The g/f about ****, and said I was so lucky. It always works like that for me!
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 04:05 PM
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If a cop is behind you on a highway, do yourself a favor and pull over, cause chances are they are faster(at least for most of us NA guys). However on windy roads, MANY times I've seen cops going the opposite direction right as I come out of a corner, or soemthing, and I see them hit the brakes, but by then I'm already flooring it and hoping to never see them again . Luckily I live in Oregon where there are backroads to get anywhere, even to and from Portland.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 04:18 PM
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There's no way you could run from a cop here in Los Angeles. If you get caught here, it's a felony.

When I was in Kansas, it was only a misdemeanor. I wouldn't mind doing there.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 04:31 PM
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Ok well I guess I can tell a few of my stories...

Was racing a mustang and civic down the main street in our city at around 1am...Then I see a car coming up real fast from behind...(ive seen this before and slowed down cause i thought i was someone wanting to race, but all it turned out to be was a cop, so needless to say i learned my leason.) I pulled away from the mustang and civic and the cop comes right after me big surprise. I take my first right, then another right about 1/3 mile down then I take a left right after that, and boot it down a windy road, needless to say he was long gone after the 2nd corner hehehe.

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Now, I refuse to use front plates, just cause they block off my beautiful front end and air coming in. Im driving down the main street again (same night as the previous story, about 45mins later) And im by myself no cars around just crusing at the speed limit, maybe 5 UNDER just cause i was taking it easy. I see a police cruiser going the opposite direction, and soon as he sees me he pulls a U-turn (I was watching for that) Soon as i see it, down shift and im gone, first right, and then another right into a parking lot even before he made his first right. Then i watch as he goes flying down that street like a bat out of hell...Just had to have a little chuckle as i drive on my marry way This time Ive had enough fun, and call it a night and head home...

-Daryl
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 04:45 PM
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If your gonna do something stupid and wana run from the cops anyways...why even put your plates on for the night? thats what a buddy of mine does but his rx7 does 320km/h

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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 05:03 PM
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I have ran from the cops on the highway twice with sirens and everything....it's as simple as pulling onto a grid road or someone's yard and letting them pass.....both times I was going 200kmh+ In town i have a ditched the cops a few times, but no sirens.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 05:06 PM
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i have a 91 na that was stock at the time. one of the deputies brought his cruiser to the track for an autocross. he had street tires and i had my trusty kuhmo v700's. i beat him by 4 seconds on a 65 second course. i dont think it was the cars as much as a poor driver tho.

my 2 cents.

dont do **** to get the cops attention. if you do pull over. it will only make things worse. get you in jail, and your car sold at an auction to some shmuck that could care less about your wonderful machine.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 05:16 PM
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it's as simple as pulling onto a grid road or someone's yard and letting them pass
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How does that work?
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 05:20 PM
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oh. if you get far enough away from them they dont see you turn off...
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by rotorhead1
i have a 91 na that was stock at the time. one of the deputies brought his cruiser to the track for an autocross. he had street tires and i had my trusty kuhmo v700's. i beat him by 4 seconds on a 65 second course. i dont think it was the cars as much as a poor driver tho.
R compound tires, like V700's are good for at LEAST 2-3 seconds on a typical auto-x course. If you drive your V700's on the street, then you are set, and as long as there are no straight stretches.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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i have a 91 na that was stock at the time. one of the deputies brought his cruiser to the track for an autocross. he had street tires and i had my trusty kuhmo v700's. i beat him by 4 seconds on a 65 second course. i dont think it was the cars as much as a poor driver tho.
Yeah, ok.
Your C stock RX-7 on R compound tires outran an H stock loaded cruiser. I bet that if you added 2.5 seconds to your time to balance the advantage of the race tires, then PAXed the times, he's as good a driver as you.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 08:38 PM
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Back when I was getting my undergrad degree at Western Ky Univ. I had gone on campus to pick up a 311 CD that a friend of mine had borrowed. While leaving, with the CD cranked, I came to a T junction where the pavement had been worn to a Glassy finish from all the traffic. So I decided to treat myself to a little fishtail action, and took off up the hill. I had probably gotten up to 45 or 50 mph when I looked in the rear view mirror and saw some headlights that were coming up kind of quickly....I didn't know if it was a cop or what so I thought that I would try and cut down an alley to get home just in case. When I hit this alley, I ran upon a cop who was performing a sobriety test on some other car. So I hit the brakes and the officer was flashing his light in my face. He walks up to the car and says "someone will be with you shortly". About 2 seconds later an officer pulls in behind me with his lights a blazin. He checks my tags and insurance. He asked me if i knew what the speed limit was on campus, which was twenty, looked at me for a second and told me he was giving me a finals week break...whew

this was back in 1993, and I was driving an 87 SE, which crapped out on me about a year later.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 11:16 PM
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I also am going to buy one of those liscence plate covers that blur your liscence plate to traffic camera's.
Those dont work, ive seen police shows about them. They look blurry in the ads, but the police can look at the negative and see the plate clearly.
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Old Nov 2, 2001 | 12:08 AM
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The second I know I just did somthing I shouldn't have and I can see them trying to get me I speed up and dip. As long as there lights arent on yet I'm not stopping.

One time I he saw me speeding and I was at a light and he was about 5 cars behind me. I spotted a church, so I pulled in and got out quick. Church seemed unusually satisfying that day.
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Old Nov 2, 2001 | 02:25 AM
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i ran from a statie on the turnpike.. not in my fc tho.. in muh truck.. ditched him at an exit.. lucky me

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Old Nov 2, 2001 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by go_speed_go


Yeah, ok.
Your C stock RX-7 on R compound tires outran an H stock loaded cruiser. I bet that if you added 2.5 seconds to your time to balance the advantage of the race tires, then PAXed the times, he's as good a driver as you.
no 1. why the attitude man? i was simply reporting my experience.

no 2. lets add 3 seconds for street tires. i still beat him.

no 3. PAX is used so i can compete aginst a c6 in a time trial. in real time it will beat me. i beat the cruiser in real time on that particular course. so in real conditions on the same course i ran faster than a cruiser.
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Old Nov 2, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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I'm not questioning whether or not you beat him. I'm questioning whether or not you're any better of a driver than he was.

The PAX factor is used to compare drivers who compete in different classes. An H stock driver will go slower than a C stock driver of equal skill. A driver on street tires will go slower than and driver of equal skill on sticky tires.

So, add your 2-3 seconds for sticky tire advantage, than PAX your times: Multiply your CS time by .803, then multiply the HS time by .780. The numbers you get will be very close in value. This means driver skill is equal.

So, yes you could outrun the guy, but not because you're a better driver. Only because you have a superior machine.
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