Rotary Down! Rotary Down! Supercharger issues
11-28-05, 07:33 PM
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Rotary Down! Rotary Down!
Yep, same thing happened to me that happened to snub's supercharger...metal shavings in the lower intake manifold and a locked up charger...only problem is I have coolant under my car and I get to find the leak.
I'm hoping that it just sent some out the coolant resv or rad cap from over pressure and not coming out of any where else.
I'm hoping that it just sent some out the coolant resv or rad cap from over pressure and not coming out of any where else.
11-28-05, 07:38 PM
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The ironic part?
Oh I called Camden about the skipping belt and he mentioned that it may be trying to boost too much and causing the belt to stretch/not be strong enough.
Just my luck that I fixed the belt and boost leak and it made full boost for a brief moment, tore off like a bat out of hell, but then again, it only lasted for a second!
Oh I called Camden about the skipping belt and he mentioned that it may be trying to boost too much and causing the belt to stretch/not be strong enough.
Just my luck that I fixed the belt and boost leak and it made full boost for a brief moment, tore off like a bat out of hell, but then again, it only lasted for a second!
11-28-05, 07:41 PM
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Andy from Camden said something about a shaft that turns the lobes inside of it (or connects them or something of that nature) has a key on it, with too much it eats up the key because the charger isn't made for it...which is what he told me about snubs...apparently the same situation happened to mine.
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11-28-05, 07:44 PM
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I assume the metal came from the supercharger blades possibly eating themselves. You could put a metal screen or a screen of somesort that coudl handle boost on it; b/w the supercharger and the motor. Kinda a fail safe thing. its just an idea.
11-28-05, 07:50 PM
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Which is rather interesting considering it's only supposed to be a 7psi pulley...
Time to start a boycott camden campaign.
Time to start a boycott camden campaign.
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11-28-05, 07:54 PM
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It's supposed to be an 8 PSI Pulley, which is the whole reason why snub sold me the kit...
I'm not going to say 'Camden Sucks' or anything like that until I have it done and everythings finished with and I see the final product, so far I'm not impressed though.
Joe, these metal shavings are so small, maybe smaller than a MM, VERY small and fine shavings...
I'm not going to say 'Camden Sucks' or anything like that until I have it done and everythings finished with and I see the final product, so far I'm not impressed though.
Joe, these metal shavings are so small, maybe smaller than a MM, VERY small and fine shavings...
11-28-05, 09:04 PM
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Do you know roughly how many people on the board have them? I know that not many probably post, as it turns into a big flamewar every time the term "camden Supercharger" comes up.
11-30-05, 11:36 PM
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! Update !
- The charger apparently BLEW the secondary fuel rail off, which in turn knocked an injector out of the hole which is why there was fuel on the ground - I'm suspecting it's the same problem that snub had with a bad charger. Camden being the good people are basically said if it's the same as snub's problem they are going to send me a whole new charger.
- The engines fine - thank GOD - it was just a green reflection off my bike lol...I checked the puddle again and it was fuel sure enough. Thank god it wouldn't hold an idle for long after the car started or we would have had a big fire because after I towed it home I checked the manifold and it had fuel dowsed all over it.
-- This would 1) Explain the hesitations in the high rpm and 2) Why the belt was skipping (if it's the same problem as Snubs) - except I finally fixed all my boost leaks and tied everything down so it held a vacuum and fixed the belt, and it hauled *** up until the point of which the charger FROZE up.
Camden's been very good about it, albeit I did have to pay shipping there but they are offering a warrenty on it which I think is very good, I wouldn't have had that if it wouldnt have been for Camden and I would have been screwed out of the money at this point with a third party seller.
- The charger apparently BLEW the secondary fuel rail off, which in turn knocked an injector out of the hole which is why there was fuel on the ground - I'm suspecting it's the same problem that snub had with a bad charger. Camden being the good people are basically said if it's the same as snub's problem they are going to send me a whole new charger.
- The engines fine - thank GOD - it was just a green reflection off my bike lol...I checked the puddle again and it was fuel sure enough. Thank god it wouldn't hold an idle for long after the car started or we would have had a big fire because after I towed it home I checked the manifold and it had fuel dowsed all over it.
-- This would 1) Explain the hesitations in the high rpm and 2) Why the belt was skipping (if it's the same problem as Snubs) - except I finally fixed all my boost leaks and tied everything down so it held a vacuum and fixed the belt, and it hauled *** up until the point of which the charger FROZE up.
Camden's been very good about it, albeit I did have to pay shipping there but they are offering a warrenty on it which I think is very good, I wouldn't have had that if it wouldnt have been for Camden and I would have been screwed out of the money at this point with a third party seller.
12-05-05, 12:39 PM
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Wow, what's wrong with their blowers if they're doing that on those boost levels?
I spin my Eaton Roots blower to 14K+ RPM, which is 17 lbs of boost on a 3.8L engine, AFTER an aftercooler, that is one hell of a lot more pressure then the atkins blower is putting out; I have 133K miles on my blower, all I've ever changed is the oil in it.
If they're chewing blowers up at those power levels, they're junk blowers or there is an issue in their layout that is stressing either the case or the snout.
I spin my Eaton Roots blower to 14K+ RPM, which is 17 lbs of boost on a 3.8L engine, AFTER an aftercooler, that is one hell of a lot more pressure then the atkins blower is putting out; I have 133K miles on my blower, all I've ever changed is the oil in it.
If they're chewing blowers up at those power levels, they're junk blowers or there is an issue in their layout that is stressing either the case or the snout.
12-05-05, 12:51 PM
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That's really too bad. I like Atkins, I really, really do. But something like this is inexcusable, considering the amount of development time and the price the kit costs.
Has anyone approached them about the other design issues that have been pointed out in the past? Poor port fitment (as SonicRat pointed out), lack of progressive throttles (though I don't know how you would fix that short of going to a centrifugal blower and mounting it before the throttle body....or redesigning the lower intake to include throttles), lack of bypass, etc.? If so, what did they say?
I like Atkins, I really, really do. But something like this is inexcusable, considering the amount of development time and the price the kit costs. Has anyone approached them about the other design issues that have been pointed out in the past? Poor port fitment (as SonicRat pointed out), lack of progressive throttles (though I don't know how you would fix that short of going to a centrifugal blower and mounting it before the throttle body....or redesigning the lower intake to include throttles), lack of bypass, etc.? If so, what did they say?