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Old May 30, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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roll cage front uprights

does anyone have any pictures of theses tubes going through the stock dash?

I would like to keep everything on the interior looking stock.

I pulled out the windshield today ( cracked the **** out of it luckily it was already cracked) and took the panel that holds the vin plate off and stuck the tube down through there but that just seemed too far forward.

To bring the tube back it looks like the mount for the dash would be right in the way.

So any pics or tips would be helpful.

Also if i make the bend in the tube follow the A-pillar, it doesn't seem like it is going to come down perpendicular to the floor. Is that ok, kinda doesn't seem right to me?
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Old May 30, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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I would like to keep everything on the interior looking stock.
You can run the bar below the AC vents if looks and simplicity are your priority. Search for pics of the Autopower bolt-in roll cage. Whatever you do, stay away from deadly S-bends like you see on the ricer cages that are designed only for looks.

Don't copy this S-bar unless the sole purpose of your car is to tow it to car shows:


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does anyone have any pictures of theses tubes going through the stock dash?
My roll cage was fabricated by a NASCAR inspector who was working for a shop that specilaized in movie stunt cars. The front hoop is routed where the door-mounted AC vents were. It was built to SCCA IT/EP specs, with the option to go to GT specs if I add bars through the firewall later on. The NASCAR-type side bars and the bar under the dash are optional for SCCA.




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Also if i make the bend in the tube follow the A-pillar, it doesn't seem like it is going to come down perpendicular to the floor. Is that ok, kinda doesn't seem right to me?
The front hoop goes around the dash, not the roof. You need to read the regulations for your intended racing class BEFORE beginning work on your roll cage or you will make a very costly mistake that is not easily fixed. If you are just building the cage for the street or for some silly drift class that has no regulations, I recommend the SCCA specs:
http://cms.scca.com/documents/Club%2...CR/2009GCR.pdf
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Old May 31, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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I'm building it to NHRA spec,

I bought the pipes cut and bent from these guys - http://autoweldchassis.com/rbc.ivnu

Your cage looks excellent, I actually already some pictures of it, I would just like to have my A-pillar bars sit a little further forward.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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I'm building it to NHRA spec
I think the NHRA specs require a larger mounting plate than SCCA.

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I would just like to have my A-pillar bars sit a little further forward.
The A-pillar bars in my car are mounted against the A-pillar, and it is not physically possible to mount them any further forward.

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The NASCAR-type side bars and the bar under the dash are optional for SCCA.
Correction: The bar under the dash is required for SCCA.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
The A-pillar bars in my car are mounted against the A-pillar, and it is not physically possible to mount them any further forward.
Yeah I was talking about where it comes through the dash.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
I think the NHRA specs require a larger mounting plate than SCCA.
NHRA requires a 6"x6" (36 sq inches) pad. SCCA allows up to 144 sq. inches in most classes

Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
The A-pillar bars in my car are mounted against the A-pillar, and it is not physically possible to mount them any further forward.
The actual pad can mount much further forward but it looks like it lines up with the a pillar nicely. I try to mount mine so that the vertical section coming from the rocker is in line with the door frame.

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Correction: The bar under the dash is required for SCCA.
Depending on the class, it's optional. Showroom Stock, Touring, Improved Touring, it's an optional bar. Don't recall if it's required in Production. Didn't use to be, but they revamped the Prod. rules since I last had to look through them.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ITSWILL
I'm building it to NHRA spec,

I bought the pipes cut and bent from these guys - http://autoweldchassis.com/rbc.ivnu

Your cage looks excellent, I actually already some pictures of it, I would just like to have my A-pillar bars sit a little further forward.
you have any pics of this cage? opinions? i was thinking about getting a cage from them.

if you dont mind, how much was it after evrything? (shipping and all that)
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Raycer
NHRA requires a 6"x6" (36 sq inches) pad. SCCA allows up to 144 sq. inches in most classes

Ok so is it 36 square incehes or 6x6?



and the total cost was about $500 with everything
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Any answer to this. Because my main hoop plates were trimmed so everything would fit, but now I guess it is too small, and Im gunna have to do it again, so I would like to do it right.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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this is what I found

http://www.nhra.org/contacts/tech_faq.html

it talks about the 6in square but it says there needs to be 2 of them one on the top and one on the bottom bolted together.

then it says optionally you can weld a top plate. I assume it is supposed to be a 6in plate as well. I really don't know how I going to fit full 6x6 plates in there? They need to be trimmed.
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