2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

rev's to 3000rpms then dies after 20 seconds?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-22-05, 07:04 PM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
rev's to 3000rpms then dies after 20 seconds?

hey, i just took off all the manifolds and fixed a siezed 6th port (1991 gxl). then started it up and it seemed like it was a little louder than normal when warming up to 3000rpms then when it was dropping down to normal rpms it died. did it twice, dont want to break anything and its getting dark outside now so hoping maybe someone could give me some advice so i can fix it first thing tomorrow.
thanks in advance

i think its probably something with vacum lines maybe i mixed some up anyone have any ideas which ones?

Last edited by rx7ofdoom; 12-22-05 at 07:11 PM.
Old 12-22-05, 08:44 PM
  #2  
Alcohol Fueled!

iTrader: (2)
 
J-Rat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hood River oregon
Posts: 11,093
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
A vacuum leak would be my educated guess.
Old 12-22-05, 08:47 PM
  #3  
Senior Member

iTrader: (4)
 
theagavejazz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 378
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mine does that sometimes when it's cold, I just hold the idle when it drops for a couple seconds and it's fine.
Old 12-22-05, 09:00 PM
  #4  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hmm ill give that a shot... it never did it before... and i just took off basically all the vacum hoses when i took off all the manifolds, im gonna take he fsm chart print it out and take a look at what i did and see if it all matches up.


hmmm was too impatient went outside and tried to keep it from stalling with the gas to no avail, i found one vacum hose un hooked up but that didn't change anything when i plugged it in.

anyone have any more ideas?

Last edited by rx7ofdoom; 12-22-05 at 09:22 PM.
Old 12-22-05, 09:25 PM
  #5  
ROTARY AUCTIONS

 
RotaryX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The brake booster hose. I always forget that hose and it will cause what you speak of. It goes from the manifold to a hard pipe that runs on the firewall.
Old 12-22-05, 09:40 PM
  #6  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sounds like something id miss gonna go out and check it rite now!

went out and looked which side is it on? passanger or driver side?

nvm took out a flashlight, the line running from brake booster along firewall to bottom maifold is all hooked up.

anymore ideas?

Last edited by rx7ofdoom; 12-22-05 at 09:49 PM.
Old 12-23-05, 12:33 AM
  #7  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hope to see some more ideas in the morning good night and thanks in advance again
Old 12-23-05, 01:12 AM
  #8  
Dusty hood, empty bay

 
MaxDuo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm having a similar problem at the moment.... For a while my car has been odd about starting. When I start it I have to press the pedal lightly to bounce the RPMs about 200rpms or so.... after 10 seconds it usually will hold on it's own. If I don't do this the RPMs get low and it struggles and will die.

But last night it was really cold out. I tried it for about 5 minutes (turned it off 2 times..) and coudn't get anywhere. Well I'm getting over a cold and didn't feel like being out in 20 degree weather messing with this so I left with my old (er, newer?) Honda.

Today I tried to start it since it wasn't so cold anymore... Right now it's being different. I'll try to rev it a little and after 5-10 seconds it seems like the gas pedal gets a lot harder to press and it takes more effort to do anything. But it seems even then like it's having no effect and the car will die anyway. I know this is like when I had a vacuum leak in the past.... But I don't seem to recall the gas pedal seeming to resist me back then. And I couldn't find any leaks today (again, didn't feel like being out in the cold long while sick).... Anyone have any clues about what it could be?

I wondered if it could be something w/ the throttle cable but I don't see what would do that....
Old 12-23-05, 01:48 AM
  #9  
I R SAD PANDA W/O BAW

 
ilike2eatricers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: bay area
Posts: 6,061
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
^maybe thermowax not functioning properly?
Old 12-23-05, 11:15 AM
  #10  
Dusty hood, empty bay

 
MaxDuo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The thermowax for the secondary butterflies?
Old 12-23-05, 11:18 AM
  #11  
The Cause of Death

 
spot_skater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 2,202
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
If it's cold it could be that, doesn't the thermowax need the heat from the coolant to function??
Old 12-23-05, 01:23 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how would i fix that, get a new one?
Old 12-23-05, 01:59 PM
  #13  
What's the point??

iTrader: (6)
 
papiogxl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i hate to thread jack but im having a similar problem, it revs to 3k then 10 sec later it dies, the throttle just kills the engine almost immediately after i touch it.
Old 12-23-05, 02:50 PM
  #14  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah same exact problem. i can't seem to figure it out. did you guys just have this problem happen when you are driving your car not working on it?
Old 12-23-05, 03:21 PM
  #15  
What's the point??

iTrader: (6)
 
papiogxl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my car hasnt driven in 2.5 months so im anxious to get it driving
Old 12-23-05, 04:10 PM
  #16  
What's the point??

iTrader: (6)
 
papiogxl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
heres an update on mine...
it runs when we only hold down secondary throttle partway but instantly dies with primary throttle input, it likes to stay around 3k but got it to around 1.5k and highest it goes is 4k
Old 12-23-05, 04:41 PM
  #17  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
anyone have any ideas? im sure this is a problem someones solved before, a greater man than myself :-p. my car was working fine besides the 6th port when i took it all apart. :-/
Old 12-23-05, 05:20 PM
  #18  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
could it be possible that if i installed the 6th ports to be open that it would do this?
Old 12-24-05, 12:52 AM
  #19  
Dusty hood, empty bay

 
MaxDuo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well if it's the thermowax pellet, hopefully it'll warm up some here soon so I can go out and get the TB off. Figure I'll go ahead and do the TB mod.... In hopes of it running after that. No worries guys, I never go WOT when the engine is cold or when in low RPMs. It'll be nice to get a mod out of the way and remove that horrid hose between the UIM and engine while hopefully fixing a problem....
Old 12-24-05, 03:25 AM
  #20  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
whats the mod have a link?
Old 12-24-05, 07:56 AM
  #21  
Senior Member

 
Dcrasta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: WDC
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just fixed that hose on my T2. If u want to remove the UIM hose to Water pump if u look the water pump housing has a hose coming off the back. Use a L shaped water hose from there to the center iron(?) . use hose clamps. Also that going to 2-3 K rpms and dying is probably a missing BAC or other larger vacuum hose.
If u remove the water to Thermo wax hose then screw the thermowax screw all the way down (in)
Old 12-24-05, 04:37 PM
  #22  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hmmm well i took the manifold off, put it all back together again and same thing.
i took a few pics see if you notice anything wrong.

here there 4 pic's i put on photobucket.

http://photobucket.com/albums/y140/h.../engine%20rx7/
Old 12-26-05, 01:49 AM
  #23  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
anyone? please if you need or want pics of anything else let me know :-/ this daily drive and my project isn't running right now either so anything would help!!
Old 12-26-05, 05:36 PM
  #24  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
rx7ofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
anyone? por favor (please en espanol :-p)
Old 12-26-05, 06:33 PM
  #25  
Alcohol Fueled!

iTrader: (2)
 
J-Rat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hood River oregon
Posts: 11,093
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Told ya man, look for vac leaks. you missed something.


Quick Reply: rev's to 3000rpms then dies after 20 seconds?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:08 PM.