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Old 04-15-05, 03:01 PM
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Exclamation replaced motor? how do I tell

I bought my car a year ago and the guy told me the original owner had the engine replaced with a mazda crate engine, because the original motor was acting up and the mazda techs couldn't fix it.

I never really verified it because there was no real paper work. HOW DO I TELL IF THIS IS TRUE?

My chassis number is JM1FC3318L0801545


My engine code the best I could read it is E 070676

The only part I'm not sure on in the engine code is the "E".
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can someone just give me a vin check or something. ANYTHING.
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A VIN check wouldnt show something like that. Why dont you call up mazda USA and give them your VIN to see if there was any engine replacement done on the car?
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Aren't all of the Mazda remanufactured engines marked on the housings?
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Theres red paint on the tension bolt ends, flywheel nut, I think i heard on the main pulley bolt heads and something sayings its a reman is stamped on the housings.
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Theres red paint on the tension bolt ends, flywheel nut, I think i heard on the main pulley bolt heads and something sayings its a reman is stamped on the housings.
Pics of my REMAN






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So this engine suposedly got replaced at 45,000 miles and now it's at 103,000 you think the red things are still there.

Is there a way to tell from the engine number? I'm at work and I can't call mazda USA from here, just use the comp. Does someone have knowledge about engine numbers that could tell if this was a crate engine or the original?

Also is it true that crate engines that they put in for replacements aren't as reliable.
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btw, which is better a reman or a rebuilt job(with no porting or what not) from a good company, like kevins RR.com
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Originally Posted by theman4444
So this engine suposedly got replaced at 45,000 miles and now it's at 103,000 you think the red things are still there.

Is there a way to tell from the engine number? I'm at work and I can't call mazda USA from here, just use the comp. Does someone have knowledge about engine numbers that could tell if this was a crate engine or the original?

Also is it true that crate engines that they put in for replacements aren't as reliable.
If it has a blue tag next to the CAS, it's a Mazda reman. The tag is metal, so it's not going to fall off, get rubbed off, or get lost any other way than someone intentionally removing it. The red paint on the bolts doesn't simply rub off either. If the engine doesn't have the blue tag, then chances are a dealer did not replace the engine.

If the reman was built by Delco Remy, who has had the contract for the past several years, then the engine is very well built. YMMV, but as was the case with Ilike2eatricers, many people have received Mazda remans with two brand new rotor housings.
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Yea the blue tag is hot glued to the engine and wont come off unless you really try to but I dont see why anybody would since it's basically your proof for warranty purposes.

From what I have read getting new housings on a REMAN is luck of the draw. If old housings are within spec they will reuses them. I have heard rumors of some people buying REMANs and tearing down the old engine and scarring the housing intentionally before sending back the core so more new housings will come on REMANs and be in circulation. I got my REMAN from malloy mazda if anybody cares to know, but they had to order it from somewhere else.
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So I just checked and my engine definitely doesn't have any of that stuff. So I

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So I just checked and my engine definitely doesn't have any of that stuff. So I know its not a spec reman. Is there any other way to check that this wasn't the original engine? Or would mazda ever put in an engine that wasn't a reman, but an actual new engine or am I just making things up now.

BTW nice reman ilike2eatricers, How much it cost around if you don't mind me asking?
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i dont think they make new engines, i believe they are all remanufactured some are with all new housings etc while others have good used housings...

but dont quote me on this im not 100% if they make new engines , im pretty sure from what i heard mazda doesnt even build the remanufactured engines anymore, they have it contracted out to catapillar or something like that
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Originally Posted by theman4444
So I just checked and my engine definitely doesn't have any of that stuff. So I know its not a spec reman. Is there any other way to check that this wasn't the original engine? Or would mazda ever put in an engine that wasn't a reman, but an actual new engine or am I just making things up now.

BTW nice reman ilike2eatricers, How much it cost around if you don't mind me asking?
It was about $2300 shipped IIRC. They even come to pick up the core! Try checking the oil pan and see if it is RTV gasket or the OEM paper gasket.
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Originally Posted by wtfdidusay82
i dont think they make new engines, i believe they are all remanufactured some are with all new housings etc while others have good used housings...

but dont quote me on this im not 100% if they make new engines , im pretty sure from what i heard mazda doesnt even build the remanufactured engines anymore, they have it contracted out to catapillar or something like that
Delco Remanufacturing (Delco Remy) has the contract. Anything within spec is reused. Original rotor housings are so old, that they typically are not within spec. They come with a few extras like a new or Mazda remanufactured water pump, thermostat, and flywheel. My local dealer is asking $2700, however, dealers are free to mark the prices up or down. The frugal buyer will shop a couple of dealers.
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Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers
Try checking the oil pan and see if it is RTV gasket or the OEM paper gasket.
I have rtv on my TII longblock's oil pan, red if i recall that i just bought, previous owner didn't know anything about it, what does that say?
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Well it doesnt say anything except that the oil pan gasket was redone. I believe alot of engine builders use RTV instead of or inconjunction with the OEM paper gasket so that is a possibility. The only thing you can definately say is the oil pan was removed and reinstalled.
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Damn lol i was hoping i had some serious luck. Oh well still got it for dirt cheap.
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You might actually have a rebuild but I dont know any certain ways to check it out for sure. If it runs strong and has good compression who cares.
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OMG, my front pulley bolt is marked in red, this gives an even better chance for it to be a reman SWEET!
Edit and the block drain coolant bolt thing! omg did i just pay 300 bucks for a full turbo longblock that has a reman shortblock!

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anyone want to confirm this?? man that would rock!
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